X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by StarTrek1701, May 31, 2011.

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How Much Did You Enjoy X-MEN: FIRST CLASS?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2011.
  1. A+ (Great Movie!)

    73 vote(s)
    35.6%
  2. A (Entertained a lot!)

    93 vote(s)
    45.4%
  3. B (Was okay, not bad)

    30 vote(s)
    14.6%
  4. C (Below expectations)

    6 vote(s)
    2.9%
  5. D (Very bad)

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. F (Intolerable, want money back)

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  1. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

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    I agree that Shaw would need to make some kind of active effort to absorb and deflect the energy; an effort he was unable to make since Xavier had frozen his mind.

    I also agree that I'm not sure Xavier thought this through very well as far as what he would do with Shaw once he got him. Magneto's plan to kill him was definately the most practical.
     
  2. The Borgified Corpse

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    Put me on the list of people that would like to see them do both an X-Men: First Class sequel AND X-Men 4. I think they could do it, particularly if they could get Vaughn to direct the next prequel while Bryan Singer directed X4.

    I got the impression that Mystique did have a rather traumatic childhood prior to finding Xavier. It's the reason why she was an orphan breaking into random people's houses to begin with. As for why she turned against Xavier, I think it's because:
    (1) he never explaned the Westermarck Effect ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect ) to her and
    (2) Magneto is a really smooth operator who's able to convince a hottie to walk around naked for the rest of her life.

    As for Liev Schreiber, I'm of the personal opinion that, in the movie universe, Victor Creed & Sabertooth are not the same person. They're played by different actors. They're never once referred to by the other name, not even in the credits, when nearly everyone else is. And Sabertooth doesn't act as if he has any idea who Wolverine is.

    Both very funny. But the best/worst would have to be the one they did for Spider-Man 3. That one completely ruined the actual movie for me forever. [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoNgMVFQNBI[/yt]
    "And no narrating!"
     
  3. Captain Craig

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    How it should've ended: Spiderman 3 was actually so bad and pointless I stopped it at 3:12. They didn't make a better case, I'll take the movie in this instance.
     
  4. Trekker4747

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    It's a shame, past the 3-min mark they really get into pointing out the movie's flaws.
     
  5. Captain Craig

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    ^^^
    Is not the point of their vids to "get to the point" faster and more logically than the movie did? It was for others they've done, so ergo this vid=fail imo.

    I just don't feel inclined to rewatch it now. The opportunity for 'the funny' is now lost.
     
  6. KB24

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    Looks like my original hopes and speculations weren't off the mark. I hoped First Class would remain in the Top 20 for the year, and it looks like it did stay as the 14th highest grossing film of 2011.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/20-top-grossing-movies-2011-275348#14


    Now, while yay for them, if everyone thought their numbers weren't that impressive, then what does that say about the rest of the top films?

    But anyone. When do we get a new thread for the sequel? :) I can't keep track anymore!
     
  7. Admiral_Young

    Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think someone said above, someone would start a thread for the sequel when we have actual news.
     
  8. stj

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    As to whether Shaw needs to consciously exercise his will to absorb KE, and therefore needs to know about the threat, I can only repeat that nuclear radiation would have killed Shaw if either were true. However could Shaw hope to sleep if he needed to be awake to fight off the damage from radioactive fallout in his postnuclear apocalypse paradise? However could a man in his eighties or nineties managed to fight off skin cancer and other kinds of skin damage if either were true?
     
  9. Trekker4747

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    I think the "point" of their videos is more to make the ending more "logical" and funny or to just make fun of the movie in general. The Superman one "takes place" almost at the end of the actual movie and simply has Superman showing that he can move fast enough to find and catch both missiles.

    In the Spider-Man 3 video it was more of a montage of scenes pointing out all of the flaws in the movie.
     
  10. Daneel

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    I thought I'd dig up this thread to mention that the sequel to First Class is scheduled to start filming in January of next year. This comes after news broke that Fox and Lionsgate were trying to work something out so that Jennifer Lawrence could do this as well as the Hunger Games sequel (which would shoot first, likely next fall).

    It seems like Fox is definitely targeting a Summer 2014 release for the First Class sequel.
     
  11. Skywalker

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  12. Captain Craig

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    Bow chik a wow wow!!!
     
  13. Disruptor

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    More mutant tie ins with historical events. If they go to Woodstock, you can count me out.
     
  14. Admiral_Young

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    Bryan Singer has mentioned the possibility of Vietnam and Matthew Vaughn talked about wanting the opening shot of the film to address the JFK assassination and have Erik be responsible for the so called "magic bullet". Not sure if either of these possibilities will actually be in the film of course.
     
  15. Ian Keldon

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    Singer needs to just go away.

    Let the new team take up the franchise. First Class was better than SInger's overwrought allegory polemics from scene one word one.
     
  16. M'rk son of Mogh

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    You do know Singer was a pretty big part of the new team, don't you? As producer and story credits?
     
  17. Admiral_Young

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    Yep if it weren't for Singer, we'd not have got the movie we did.
     
  18. Xavier_Storma

    Xavier_Storma Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    What are yout talking about?
    The X-films are the best comic-book inspired films of all. Only Nolan's Batman can compete with them.

    FIRST CLASS was an outstanding film, and I cannot wait for the sequel, which will go into production January 2013.
     
  19. Set Harth

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    LEAVE JFK ALONE!!!!!!
     
  20. Xavier_Storma

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    I hope they won't!!!
    This would be a great setup.

    Plus: Having the sequel set during the Vietnam War would open up the possibility to include Logan and Victor Creed in a minor role for example... :)
    The Wolverine cameo in FIRST CLASS was the best cameo in movie history.