The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Shane was depicted like Shane: a short tempered, emotionally off-kilter, overly confident, shoot first ask questions later sort of guy. He has never been especially cunning so rushing into his half-baked plan when he spotted an opportunity(no matter how bad) is perfectly in character. I was able to guess his entire plot pretty much moment for moment after the preview at the end of the previous episode. They were very human actions from a very human character driven to extremes. From my perspective, it was always the foregone conclusion that Shane was going to make a move like this and would have to be put down.

 

It would make some kind of sense that newer zombies would be able to move faster than ones that had been shambling around from the start, with bits seizing up or falling off. And fresh meat does seem to be a big motivator for them.

 

I think that zombies can get some rudimentary nutrition/water from eating flesh. Otherwise they just decay and desiccate like a normal corpse. The reactivation of the brain stem prevents rigor mortis but the lack of the sensation of pain and their lack of a drive to self preserve means that the walkers would do nothing to avoid injury. So every cut, every broken bone, every minute exposed to the elements should eventually take their toll.

Once most of the living have died off or secured themselves in safe zones it should only be a matter of time until the plague ends of its own accord (as long as people remember the 'everyone is infected' rule).

 

I worry more about it turning into Dallas.

In the last episode, Rick wakes up from the coma he has been in for months and discovers Patrick Duffy is his doctor.

Dun-dun-DUN!!!

 

He didn't appear to limp, either, even though he's not anywhere near recovered from his leg injury. I wasn't even 100% sure that was Randall at first.

 

I'm not sure about the rest of your thoughts, but I can address the parenthetical question. Robert Kirkman has confirmed that the writing and production team does have rules set out related to zombie speed, so they have made an effort not to let it simply be "speed of plot."

 

Yep. And its common for the fear and anxiety of a life threatening situation to make time seem like it's moving at a slower pace or as if it has come to a halt.

 

Exactly, The G Man.

Also, Rick didn't expect Carl to show up at that exact moment of shock and grief. It jumbled his thoughts for a little while. It's not so preposterous. Andrew Lincoln as Rick isn't Kiefer Sutherland as Jack, but he's not meant to be Kiefer Sutherland as Jack.

 

your not the only one

 

Hmm. Too bad Suzanne Pleshette is no longer with us.

 

Not just that, but it seems like less than as week ago (in their time, who knows how long it really was) Randall's leg was impaled by a spike and torn up a little bit when they had to get it out.

 

Hey I just had an awesome thought! If they're all infected anyway, if they run low on food, they could kill (well, incapacitate) zombies and eat them. Haw, take that beeotches! Okay I probably shouldn't write for this show...

I bet Darryl would do it.

I've never found a Facebook game I liked. But I'll check it out anyway.

 

By "depicted," I meant more than how we was written or how Bernthal played him. It was how those scenes were shot. Stuff like shooting Shane looking out from the woods, like a zombie...seemed like there was an agenda behind the directorial choices. And I did think Bernthal's performance had subtly changed as well, with an increase in the mouth-breathing and general caveman-like demeanor.

But the way he was written was pretty much normal Shane. He wasn't acting in any way that would make Rick suspicious. The writers don't want to tip off the characters this early in the game, but I think they're trying to foreshadow something for the audience. We shall see.

 

We were making that joke already, back when Daryl was hallucinating Merle and eating squirrel. Some folks thought he was eating zombie.

 

Maybe Rick is a mean SOB and let Shane reanimate on purpose to punish him and kill him twice!

 

I re-watched the episode this morning, and noticed that Carl actually points the gun at Rick before Shane reanimates. Seems pretty clear that Carl was actually firing the gun at his father, and missed. And for sure, that's what Rick was thinking before Shane dropped behind him. Great acting in this scene, and Rick's distress (and distraction) is quite believable to me.

I think Temis, mentioned it, but I loved the way Shane was exhibiting zombie-like behavior during the course of the episode. Emotionally, he was already there.

 

You really have had a terrible track record with your guesses of what the writers are up to on this show.

 

Of course there's an "agenda" - it's otherwise known as "directing the episode to reflect the events and themes you wish the episode to contain."

 

Yeah, but a person limps because the leg doesn’t support weight (broken) or the leg hurts. Randall’s leg was impaled; it could support weight, but it would hurt. Except that Zombie!Randall won’t feel pain, so it doesn’t hurt him. It still supports weight, so no limp.

 

Looked to me like Carl was originally aiming the gun at his dad, because he thought he had killed Shane for no reason. But once he spotted Zombie Shane coming for them, he realized the truth and altered his aim.

Yeah, the way Bernthal explained it made the most sense to me-- Shane realized he was a danger to the group and no longer belonged, and was simply trying to force Rick to man up and do something about it.