That could still be defined as hot-headed, but dirty, play.
Just not something that was discussed in the morning meeting & drawn up on a chalkboard.
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That could still be defined as hot-headed, but dirty, play.
Just not something that was discussed in the morning meeting & drawn up on a chalkboard.
Yeah, exactly. That was clearly him losing his temper. Not a good thing and he deserved to be punished for it, but also not the same as planning out to hurt people in advance.
I wonder where's the line though. Telling your players to hurt Brady when playing the Patriots surely can't be illegal. But a coach encouraging players with money to explicitely target a player is pretty outrageous.
It surely can, and is!
Funny that that's the sentiment, when for several years running, the rule changes were basically Bill Pollian making however the Pats beat the Colts that year now illegal 
All the over-penalized pass interference stuff was because the Pats defense used to not suck, and it would basically maul the Colts' receivers. Pollian kept tweaking that until it was illegal to even LOOK at Wayne or Harrison without at least a 15-yard penalty...
Tuck rule is weird, but it wasn't new. Can't say I really GET it, but hey. Only "Brady" rule I'm aware of is not diving into the knees of a QB. Maybe they take protecting thr QB too far, but not a bad rule. Go watch the first couple minutes of The Blind Side, not a bad idea. That, and the QB is kinda the superstar of the league. When they're all hurt and scrubs are playing, it hurts the league. Makes sense they want to protect their brand. Be nice if there was a little common sense injected into the rule, though, so you don't have to give a big penalty if it's incidental contact and no one was hurt...
All the over-penalized pass interference stuff was because the Pats defense used to not suck, and it would basically maul the Colts' receivers. Pollian kept tweaking that until it was illegal to even LOOK at Wayne or Harrison without at least a 15-yard penalty...
Tuck rule is weird, but it wasn't new. Can't say I really GET it, but hey. Only "Brady" rule I'm aware of is not diving into the knees of a QB. Maybe they take protecting thr QB too far, but not a bad rule. Go watch the first couple minutes of The Blind Side, not a bad idea. That, and the QB is kinda the superstar of the league. When they're all hurt and scrubs are playing, it hurts the league. Makes sense they want to protect their brand. Be nice if there was a little common sense injected into the rule, though, so you don't have to give a big penalty if it's incidental contact and no one was hurt...
Funny that that's the sentiment, when for several years running, the rule changes were basically Bill Pollian making however the Pats beat the Colts that year now illegal
All the over-penalized pass interference stuff was because the Pats defense used to not suck, and it would basically maul the Colts' receivers. Pollian kept tweaking that until it was illegal to even LOOK at Wayne or Harrison without at least a 15-yard penalty...
We will no longer have to worry about the conflict of interest due to Polian being part of the Competition Committee seeing as he's no longer with the Colts.
One encouraging thing with regards to this year's playoffs and superbowl is that I noticed a distinct lack of ticky-tacky calls favoring the offense (specifically illegal contact/pass interference). The refs let the players play and I truly hope this carries through to next season. It felt actually like I was watching real football rather than arena style.
-Jamman
Ok, then how about saying "hit Brady as hard you can!"?
Reports are swirling that the NFL is probably going to bring the hammer down on the Saints, with Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis looking at half-season (or longer) suspensions, as well as multiple draft pick forfeitures (they don't have a first-rounder this year, but their 2013 pick is almost certainly gone, as well as possible other picks this year). Gregg Williams was recalled to New York City to meet with officials again today -- he's in real deep shit.
What's getting lost in a lot of this talk is that beyond there being bounties to injure opposing players, this is a huge circumvention of the salary cap.
What's getting lost in a lot of this talk is that beyond there being bounties to injure opposing players, this is a huge circumvention of the salary cap.
^I heard this one some radio or TV show earlier today. Forget where.
But they were mentioning that since it was income not subject to taxation or reported or something like that, (I'm not an accountant, pardon my ignorance) that it was also circumventing the IRS. They've got better things to do than come after them, but we've seen where the Feds have made a case out of something when it suited them, such as BALCO or the MLB steroid hearings.
But they were mentioning that since it was income not subject to taxation or reported or something like that, (I'm not an accountant, pardon my ignorance) that it was also circumventing the IRS. They've got better things to do than come after them, but we've seen where the Feds have made a case out of something when it suited them, such as BALCO or the MLB steroid hearings.
The problem with the franchise tag is that it's in the neighborhood of 9.4 million dollars against the cap. Supposedly, the Pats offered Welker a 2-year 16 million dollar guaranteed contract, but obviously Welker is looking for longer security. Problem is, he's on the wrong side of 30 and the amount of hits he's taken with his dimunitive body obviously gives the Patriots pause with giving him a 4-5 year contract.
-Jamman
Everyone gives the Pats pause when it comes to contracts. I swear if they had it their way it'd be a team of undrafted D-2 players on 1 year deals.
And as far as being on the wrong side of 30 with a diminuitive body, I resemble that remark.
He's an odd case. Not a game changing TD machine like Megatron or that guy on Houston who's name I can't recall, but he's a reliable first down machine (first person to mention the SB play gets a bleach enema) with prolific numbers.
And as far as being on the wrong side of 30 with a diminuitive body, I resemble that remark.
He's an odd case. Not a game changing TD machine like Megatron or that guy on Houston who's name I can't recall, but he's a reliable first down machine (first person to mention the SB play gets a bleach enema) with prolific numbers.
You're thinking of Andre Johnson.
Even though Welker's an incredibly reliable receiver and has demonstrated remarkable agility and speed despite his knee blowing the fuck up in 2010, his game is going to have to change, and in a fairly significant fashion. He'll still be a possession machine, very Cris Carter-esque, but the Patriots are in desperate need of a legitimate #1 receiver (and Gronk doesn't count; he's going to be facing the double-teams that shut down Moss for the last few years of his Pats run). Right now, they have a bunch of #2 and #3 guys.
I'm sure Welker will sign a longer deal in the near future, especially since Belichick issued a statement saying that such a deal was a "contractual priority," which is the closest you'll ever get to love from Bill Belichick.
The more important news is both good and bad.
Good news: Vincent Jackson was not franchised by the Chargers, and Jackson and Avril had been targeted by Phil Emery as the top targets for the Bears. Now that Avril is off the market, Emery is reportedly going to do everything possible to get Jackson.
Bad news: The fucking insane contract that Seattle just gave Marshawn Lynch (4/31, 17 guaranteed) is going to make it so much more difficult for the team to re-sign Matt Forte. They franchised him, which was essentially a no-brainer at this point, but now that Lynch and Arian Foster have set the market ... fuck.
Were you trying to be cheeky or did you mean "resent".
As for my opinion of Welker as a receiver, I'd basically echo what Timby stated.
-Jamman
Goodell is going to make an example of Williams, no doubt about it. Whether the Rams "fire" him or not, they'll need another coordinator because it's a given he's going to be suspended for a very long time. At first I didn't think they'd do it, but now I do. I think Williams is gone for the year.
Colts to release Peyton Manning tomorrow.
Really not a surprise at all. It's unfortunate it had to end this way, but there was no way Indy was going to pick up that $28 million bonus when they have a prospect like Andrew Luck on the horizon.
Really not a surprise at all. It's unfortunate it had to end this way, but there was no way Indy was going to pick up that $28 million bonus when they have a prospect like Andrew Luck on the horizon.
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