The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Sho]

Ugh.

Edit: But that Klingon makeup holds up amazingly well. Every still of Worf is stunning.

 

[Tosk]

Here's the 4-footer: http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/5450_29_1080p.jpg

Damn it! So ugly.

Oh well, that's that then. We'll have at least three distinctly different versions of the Enterprise in TNGR.

And speaking of ugly, this is what the upconverted section looks like:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=30189&position=39

Thank goodness it's only thirteen seconds. A horrible reminder of how good the rest of the footage looks.

 

[Maxwell Everett]

Also, it looks like they were able to keep the Deneb IV matte painting rather than re-create it in CG (the clouds and surface features look identical):

http://images4.static-bluray.com/reviews/5450_11_1080p.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x01/farpoint1_228.jpg

 

[Start Wreck]

Q's grid forcefield is a huge improvement, depsite looking effectively identical:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=30189&position=27

 

[Start Wreck]

I wonder why they didn't replace all the 4-foot models with CGI? Maybe they're not going for consistency. Maybe they simply didn't have the footage. Or maybe they haven't decided yet. This is still just a sampler.

Transporter effects looks amazing. Really bright and defined. The season 1 transporter effects always looked pretty puny and faded.

I'd like to see some of the holodeck scenes to see how the compositing has improved.

The worst thing about it is when we get to Darmok he's going to re-create the Enterprise firing phasers out its torpedo tubes?
C'mon mannnnnn

Someone on the Blu-ray.com forum mentioned that the "energy beam from the captain's yacht" mistake has been fixed in EaF (it now comes from the phaser strip), so it's a reasonable bet the Darmok phaser goof will be fixed too. Can anyone confirm this? I haven't seen it in any of the screengrabs yet.

 

[Ghostface1701]

Transporter effects looks amazing. Really bright and defined. The season 1 transporter effects always looked pretty puny and faded.

The only thing that bugs me about that shot is there's no reflection of the beam on the floor of the transporter pad.

 

[Jefferies]

To all of you griping about D. Just leave the man alone! He knows what he is doing. Berating him and spamming him with emails is what gives fandom its questionable reputation! Please let it go and get a life!

 

[Dac]

Plus, I would like to take a jab at the Anti 16:9 crowd:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screen...89&position=17

LOOK! RIKERS ARM IS CUT OFF! IN ACADEMY RATIO!

ACADEMY RATIOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Dac]

Plus, I would like to take a jab at the Anti 16:9 crowd:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=30189&position=17

LOOK! RIKERS ARM IS CUT OFF! IN ACADEMY RATIO!

ACADEMY RATIOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Sho]

... except the possible extension would be mostly on the left, not on the right, so in any possible 16:9 you'd either move Picard's upper body / head out of the center or cut off Worf's head.

 

[Dac]

 

[Jefferies]

... except the possible extension would be mostly on the left, not on the right, so in any possible 16:9 you'd either move Picard's upper body / head out of the center or cut off Worf's head.

Absolutely true of course. However, there is software nowadays, that will smart stretch trivial elements of a picture to get it closer to 16:9. Together with smart cropping and using additional picture from the film that might make it possible. It would be a huge effort, though, as they would have to make sure it worked with every frame of footage.

 

[Sho]

Yes, they could also just reshoot the entire show thanks to an ingenious little contract clause insisted on by Rick Berman that allows CBS to collect a strand of hair from everyone in the main cast, and then clone them and use synthesized hormones to rapid-age them. While this would be an enormous undertaking, personally I'm appalled they don't even seem to consider exercising this option in order to make the show appear in the only widescreen format appropriate for such a landmark program, which of course is Cinerama.

 

[Jefferies]

^^

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

... except the possible extension would be mostly on the left, not on the right, so in any possible 16:9 you'd either move Picard's upper body / head out of the center or cut off Worf's head.

Absolutely true of course. However, there is software nowadays, that will smart stretch trivial elements of a picture to get it closer to 16:9. Together with smart cropping and using additional picture from the film that might make it possible. It would be a huge effort, though, as they would have to make sure it worked with every frame of footage.

That would be a travesty. Sorry.

 

[Tosk]

Don't apologize.

 

[Jefferies]

That would be a travesty. Sorry.

My point exactly. (I was being sarcastic sorry if that wasn't clear enough.)

 

[Sho]

I, however, most certainly wasn't! Go go Cinerama!

Ok, I was .

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

That would be a travesty. Sorry.

My point exactly. (I was being sarcastic sorry if that wasn't clear enough.)

Heh, my sarcasm detector must be on the blink.

 

[TheSeeker]

Also, it looks like they were able to keep the Deneb IV matte painting rather than re-create it in CG (the clouds and surface features look identical):

http://images4.static-bluray.com/reviews/5450_11_1080p.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x01/farpoint1_228.jpg

I'm not so sure about that. I think they just faithfully recreated the layout. Either way the end result kicks ass!

Q's grid forcefield is a huge improvement, depsite looking effectively identical:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=30189&position=27

I was thinking the same thing. They stayed true to the original and shot while at the same time giving it more realism.