The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[22 Stars]

Ya, saw it over there, looks snazzy!

 

[Tomalak]

They originally planned it to be a Cheyenne class anyway and I've heard some of the engineering displays had schematics for that class ship, so it's not like changing that one ship would be against the director or the screenwriter's vision.

Really? That BoBW kitbash with marker pens for nacelles? I never heard that before.

 

[Skywalker]

Watching TNG on BBC-A HD and it is almost laughable, Data's Day is so blurry its hard to believe it meets current broadcast acceptability.

I wonder if BBCA would pony up the money to pay for broadcasting rights of TNG-R. I guess it would depend on what kind of ratings they're currently getting for TNG in "HD." They air it often enough, so they must be decent.

 

[Dac]

They originally planned it to be a Cheyenne class anyway and I've heard some of the engineering displays had schematics for that class ship, so it's not like changing that one ship would be against the director or the screenwriter's vision.

Really? That BoBW kitbash with marker pens for nacelles? I never heard that before.

Well, the reason they didn't was because they didn't want to pay for a new model. I'd guess at the very least we'd have gotten a rational version of the existing Cheyenne, and at most a pretty new design.

 

[Rarewolf]

I'm in favour of changes, but wouldn't want that changed. A background ship - fine, a stock flyby Excelsior you've seen a dozen times - fine, but not one that is a major part of the episode (its even the name of the episode!) in bespoke footage.

It makes a certain sense to disguise a prototype vessel as an old design - draw less attention. The Romulans never did learn about it.

 

[22 Stars]

Watching TNG on BBC-A HD and it is almost laughable, Data's Day is so blurry its hard to believe it meets current broadcast acceptability.

I wonder if BBCA would pony up the money to pay for broadcasting rights of TNG-R. I guess it would depend on what kind of ratings they're currently getting for TNG in "HD." They air it often enough, so they must be decent.

Oh, most certainly CBS Distribution will replace the SD seasons with HD season packages as they are complete, and sell it into syndication, and BBC-A would love to have it as long as their current plans are still in place when they are ready.

 

[bullethead]

I'm in favour of changes, but wouldn't want that changed. A background ship - fine, a flybe Excelsior you've seen a dozen times - fine, but not one that is a major part of the episode (its even the name of the episode!) in bespoke footage.

It makes a certain sense to disguise a prototype vessel as an old design - draw less attention. The Romulans never did learn about it.

1) it's wanted the screenwriter wanted in the first place and 2) the Cheyenne was an older ship anyway.

 

[RAMA]

That startrek.com interview also has our first glimpse at the revamped transporter effect!

Amazing that something so simple demonstrates what the modern tech can do.

RAMA

 

[Dac]

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[JJohnson]

For all the folks talking about Doug Drexler and not changing up any of the shots, well the one I mentioned to him as kinda glaring was the Pegasus in Season 7. I said how *I* felt that an experimental prototype ship that was only around 5 or so years before the Enterprise-D probably wouldn't be an Oberth class. He said that while he agreed, the most they're willing to do is simply fix the lighting in shots where the E-D was lit in one direction and an alien ship another. He gave the impression that he doesn't want to change anything more than the bare minimum, for fear it may open the floodgates.

I would be completely OK with it being a Cheyenne class instead of Oberth.

 

[JJohnson]

I just shot off another message to Doug, pointing out that I think a change from this: http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s7/7x12/thepegasus210.jpg

to something like this:

Isn't going to irrevocably damage the show.

I guess an angry letter from the man awaits me

Did you point out that the Cheyenne was the originally planned ship? That would make him more open to accepting it.

Also, that's a very nice mock up you got there.

I like it! If that's the original intended ship, then go for it. Textures, registry, and done.

 

[JJohnson]

That startrek.com interview also has our first glimpse at the revamped transporter effect!

Amazing that something so simple demonstrates what the modern tech can do.

RAMA

I really want to see this in HD to see if they changed it any...perhaps make it more three-dimensional so that it feels more real? Somewhat like in the ST09 or later TNG movies?

 

[Dac]

I guess that it all depends on what the studio and the higher ups say but personally I think think they'd want to change a thing. With the CG Enterprise, they're obviously trying to keep to as close as possible to the original. Maybe down the line they'll go back and change things? We don't know. But for this release its obviously going to be kept as close to the original as possible.

 

[Tosk]

I just shot off another message to Doug, pointing out that I think a change from this: http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s7/7x12/thepegasus210.jpg

to something like this:

Isn't going to irrevocably damage the show.

I guess an angry letter from the man awaits me

Did you point out that the Cheyenne was the originally planned ship? That would make him more open to accepting it.

Also, that's a very nice mock up you got there.

I like it! If that's the original intended ship, then go for it. Textures, registry, and done.

Personally, I'd rather they leave it alone. The original shots look great, and that design just looks like an upside down Galaxy saucer with some sort of weird skiff attached. (Or is that supposed to be upside down?)

 

[JJohnson]

Yay for bloopers, but I would want to change the ship - if a number of people on this thread are so for "the original intent" then they should be for this being changed over to a Cheyenne class.

 

[Dac]

Personally, I'd rather they leave it alone. The original shots look great, and that design just looks like an upside down Galaxy saucer with some sort of weird skiff attached. (Or is that supposed to be upside down?)

The original kitbash was made by two undersides of a galaxy class model kit. I used the underside of my Mesh to make a very quick facsimile of the Cheyenne class. A finished mesh like the original would have way more details revealing how small the ship really is.

 

[Skywalker]

Personally, I'd rather they leave it alone. The original shots look great, and that design just looks like an upside down Galaxy saucer with some sort of weird skiff attached. (Or is that supposed to be upside down?)

It's not upside down. The Cheyenne class has four nacelles, like the Constellation class.

 

[Tosk]

The original kitbash was made by two undersides of a galaxy class model kit.

Ah, gotcha. And just to be clear, I wasn't impuning your work just expressing opinion on the design itself.

For me to like that design, they'd need to do away with or redesign the design of the 'underside windows'. But that's just me.

 

[bullethead]

The original kitbash was made by two undersides of a galaxy class model kit.

Ah, gotcha. And just to be clear, I wasn't impuning your work just expressing opinion on the design itself.

For me to like that design, they'd need to do away with or redesign the design of the 'underside windows'. But that's just me.

Ex Astris Scientia shows off the finalized design, which isn't as blatantly kitbash as you would think.

 

[Dac]

^^^Yeah, If I made her properly, it's probably for the best that I start over from scratch. But for the quick and dirty purposes of this mock up, I figured may as well work with what I got (and I got a half finished Galaxy mesh).