The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

[the G-man]

I'm not sure I'd go that far, although Allan Moore has always expressed surprise that anybody thinks Rorschach is the hero of Watchmen. Shane is built a little differently as a character, but it does look as though Shane would appeal to certain political sentiments or beliefs about leadership. Or would be like Rambo, in that he becomes a kind of fantasy site for those who crave strong-man bully leadership.

Actually, I see Daryl as the "Rambo" character.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

And while it's possible there may be no cure, that can also be said about many illnesses - the response to an incurable illness isn't necessarily to kill your patient.

If indeed it could be called an illness, it is not the same in scope as any illness that has ever existed. It's an affliction that's gone global and that threatens to make humanity extinct.

You can't really compare the barn to a mental hospital because even those in there can still reason, speak, and aren't constantly trying to eat other people unaffected by their "disease". And even if they were trying to, if they greatly outnumbered the sane population, you can bet that some killing would happen.

The morals will change to fit the situation, and Herschel just never figured that out.

 

[Derishton]

I'm not sure I'd go that far, although Allan Moore has always expressed surprise that anybody thinks Rorschach is the hero of Watchmen. Shane is built a little differently as a character, but it does look as though Shane would appeal to certain political sentiments or beliefs about leadership. Or would be like Rambo, in that he becomes a kind of fantasy site for those who crave strong-man bully leadership.

Actually, I see Daryl as the "Rambo" character.

I could see that - Daryl's probably a better fit, given his lack of desire for leadership and the trouble he has feeling as though he fits in or wants to fit in or is accepted. "Rambo" was a name I tossed off in a moment of weakness. Maybe Shane is closest to someone like Guy Gardner, as he was portrayed in early JLI. I agree with Kegg that he's a key reason to watch the show - the actor is doing a really superb job with a character who could easily be one-note.

 

[davejames]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

If indeed it could be called an illness, it is not the same in scope as any illness that has ever existed. It's an affliction that's gone global and that threatens to make humanity extinct.

You can't really compare the barn to a mental hospital because even those in there can still reason, speak, and aren't constantly trying to eat other people unaffected by their "disease". And even if they were trying to, if they greatly outnumbered the sane population, you can bet that some killing would happen.

Yeah it should be clear to everyone in that world by now that whatever's causing this, isn't based on any kind of real world science. This isn't just an advanced form of rabies they're dealing with; these are supernatural creatures which can survive and function in ways that are simply not possible.

 

[Akiraprise]

I don't know if the walkers are supernatural. If I was still alive in TWD's world I'd be looking to science to find a cure. In fact I would be doing what Rick and his crew were prior to landing on the farm. Trying to find a way back to civilization. It's still out there somewhere. A walker free city where people are working on fixing this mess. I'd want to help rather than try to eek out some existence on a farm or wander the roads until bitten.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don't know if the walkers are supernatural. If I was still alive in TWD's world I'd be looking to science to find a cure. In fact I would be doing what Rick and his crew were prior to landing on the farm. Trying to find a way back to civilization. It's still out there somewhere. A walker free city where people are working on fixing this mess. I'd want to help rather than try to eek out some existence on a farm or wander the roads until bitten.

It's getting high time for us to find out what Doctor I-Don't-Wanna-Live-Without-My-Honey-Buns-TS-19 whispered to Rick.

 

[TheNatureRoy]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

If indeed it could be called an illness, it is not the same in scope as any illness that has ever existed. It's an affliction that's gone global and that threatens to make humanity extinct.

You can't really compare the barn to a mental hospital because even those in there can still reason, speak, and aren't constantly trying to eat other people unaffected by their "disease". And even if they were trying to, if they greatly outnumbered the sane population, you can bet that some killing would happen.

Yeah it should be clear to everyone in that world by now that whatever's causing this, isn't based on any kind of real world science. This isn't just an advanced form of rabies they're dealing with; these are supernatural creatures which can survive and function in ways that are simply not possible.

Not genuine real world science, but it seems to me it's supposed to be science-based in TWD universe -- albeit not yet understood science.

 

[Kegg]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

The Walkers aren't supernatural, but what they are is paradigm shifting. They're new scientific data that would radically overhaul existing scientific theories if there are still scientists around working on those.

You can't really compare the barn to a mental hospital because even those in there can still reason, speak, and aren't constantly trying to eat other people unaffected by their "disease".

No, I still can. I could compare it to a hypothetical mental hospital inhabited by dangerous and unreasoning insane subjects with a cannibalistic taste for human flesh.

you can bet that some killing would happen.

No doubt. On this point, I'd observe the Otis is perfectly okay with killing zombies at the school, because it's basically a necessity.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

I think Otis was far more aware of the situation then Herschel was. He kept Herschel and the rest of the family far removed from what was happening out in the world.

No doubt. On this point, I'd observe the Otis is perfectly okay with killing zombies at the school, because it's basically a necessity.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Re: What Hershel saw (and how it changed him)

I don't know if the walkers are supernatural. If I was still alive in TWD's world I'd be looking to science to find a cure.

Yeah, I wouldn't say supernatural, just far beyond what our science could actually explain. So uh, science fiction. I don't think it's quite at the level of things like ghosts, gods, or anything ethereal. But it's definitely walking that line between sci-fi and fantasy.

No, I still can. I could compare it to a hypothetical mental hospital inhabited by dangerous and unreasoning insane subjects with a cannibalistic taste for human flesh.

Ok, I guess you could... but I'm not sure I see the point in making a comparison to a hypothetical.

 

[Kytee]

Trying to find a way back to civilization. It's still out there somewhere. A walker free city where people are working on fixing this mess

I'm curious how you would be so certain that civilization is still out there, you suggest the above would be better then

wander the roads until bitten.

But it kinda seems like the same thing really, even if you are right , and civilization is still out there, finding it would be a needle in a haystack. Unless its not just 'out there' but also 'within a short distance' you could wander for ever and not stumble accross it. even if it is close, if you head the wrong way, you could never know it was just over that hill behind you,

-CG

 

[sojourner]

^Radio, TV, smoke signals.....

 

[Akiraprise]

^ and Faith.

But more than likely some kind of signal would still be broadcasting advising survivors where to go.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Exactly. If it was me, I'd get my people to some safe place and wait for some broadcast that I could trust. Traveling around not only puts you at risk of becoming Zombie food, but also of running into bands of survivors that are not quite so benign (like that biker gang in Dawn Of The Dead).

 

[Jax]

In the Novels is the rest of the world ever mentioned? or is the outbreak limited to USA?

I would love to see the BBC try to adapt a UK version

 

[JacksonArcher]

I would love to see the BBC try to adapt a UK version

I think that version of the show would be called World War Z.

 

[Derishton]

Exactly. If it was me, I'd get my people to some safe place and wait for some broadcast that I could trust. Traveling around not only puts you at risk of becoming Zombie food, but also of running into bands of survivors that are not quite so benign (like that biker gang in Dawn Of The Dead).

But how would you know to trust a broadcast unless you went and found the source of the broadcast?

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ That's a good question (also good story material). But it would be better than wandering blindly in a world of hungry Zombies and unrestrained opportunists.

 

[Derishton]

Just to say something nice about the Resident Evil films, they've shown both approaches leading to more or less the same result - which I take to be deliberate, but I may be optimistic on that.

 

[Kytee]

In the Novels is the rest of the world ever mentioned? or is the outbreak limited to USA?

Ive read most of the comics and the novel, so far as I know

Spoiler: Comic info

The rest of the world's fate in not known

-GC