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Pan Am...did anyone watch?

The 707 would have been quite noisy but there are times when production requirements have to overide reality in terms of lighting and sound effects.

Yes, how many times have you seen people on TV driving down the freeway in a convertible and still talking in normal conversational voices? It's a convention of the medium, I guess. You don't really want to watch passengers raising their voices to be heard over the jet noise, and dialogue with a lot of "What?" in it.

Same thing with conversations in crowded bars and restaurants. Even if the bar is standing room only and music is blasting the main characters can always converse in a normal tone of voice.
 
I heard from my father than my grandfather (the former Pan-Am pilot) and several Pan-Am retirees he still talks to (another pilot and two stewardesses) liked the show. My grandfather apparently wasn't familiar with serial television series, though. He's apparently only watched sports, movies, the weather, the news, and documentaries for the last sixty years. :eek:
 
My grandfather apparently wasn't familiar with serial television series, though. He's apparently only watched sports, movies, the weather, the news, and documentaries for the last sixty years. :eek:

Ha! That's great.
 
Is the spy angle historically accurate? I don't have a clue, myself.

But I was entertained. I've set a series recording on my DVR, as long as it's not sucking. :techman:
 
Lucille Ball also claimed she intercepted Chinese Morse Code through dental fillings and that resulted in an arrest. No such thing ever happened.

Just because a writer/consultant claims something happened doesn't mean it did. ;)
 
Putting the spy stuff in there smells a lot like sticking the "Temporal Cold War" arc into Enterprise.
Cept that the TCW was just a lot of worthless nonsense while the Cold War is a valid and interesting subject for drama. There's a Kennedy-in-Berlin episode coming up that I'm very curious to see.

True, but I think a period piece simply set around stewardesses flying to various places and the situations they get into could've held the series without having to toss in this CIA espionage stuff to make it "more interesting." I wanted to see the show on its premise alone, I didn't need CIA stuff to make it that much more interesting to me.

Without the spy stuff, the show would have been a bigger risk. ABC might have even decided not to air it without a more guaranteed "hook" to hold onto the audience. Just flying around here and there doesn't have any inherently dramatic conflict to it. Flying around here and there, and doing a spy mission, is guaranteed dramatic tension.

And without that hook, we might all be bitching that the show is boring and there's no reason to watch. Just look at Terra Nova - you'd think dinosaurs would be enough of a hook, but a lot of people are complaining anyway.

I can see why TV producers would err on the side of caution and not assume that any subject matter on its own is inherently interesting. I can think of plenty of shows that bored me because they didn't answer the question, "why should I care?"
 
Lucille Ball also claimed she intercepted Chinese Morse Code through dental fillings and that resulted in an arrest. No such thing ever happened.

Just because a writer/consultant claims something happened doesn't mean it did. ;)


"When the legend becomes the truth, print the legend."--The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

Who cares if it really happened as long as it makes a good story? This is a frothy tv drama, not a documentary. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that the NYPD doesn't really need help from wise-cracking mystery writers either (see: Castle.) Or that secret spy agencies don't really turn homeless runaways into highly-trained assassins (hello, Nikita.). Or that there's a good-guy serial killer who preys on other serial killers (Dexter). So why not have secret spy stewardesses?

It's tv. Go with it.
 
I don't really care how realistic it is, or whether it really happened or not, just that I don't think it's something that's need on a TV series that already has a rather solid premise on it's own.

(see: Temporal Cold War arc discussion above.)
 
^^ Presently it doesn't seem to be that big a part of the current goings on. I'm hanging in and I also don't mind the touch of spy intrigue.
 
I still find it to be an interesting show, though I'm not liking the "Lost-like" approach it seems to be taking with the story-telling, I am liking Katie Holmes in it and I love the French Stewardess.
 
The French stewardess, Colette... :drool:

She's played by a French Canadian actress from Quebec. I'm French Canadian and my parents are from Quebec. It's trivial, but there it is. :lol:
 
Hmm, cooking roast beef in flight - hope there were no vegetarians on the flight :)

Oh and does anyone know what $350 in 1963 would equate to today?
 
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The French stewardess, Colette... :drool:

She's played by a French Canadian actress from Quebec. I'm French Canadian and my parents are from Quebec. It's trivial, but there it is. :lol:
My wife is full-on Qubecquoise and we live in Alberta. Twenty seconds into the pilot episode, I hear "Hé, c'est Karine Vanasse - tabarnane!" from her. A known actress from Quebec in a big network show is pretty rare, really... ;)

Liking this one so far. They go really far to make it look like the 60s, but there's only so much you can do, even with all the added green screens, on a TV budget. Anyone seen this yet?

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/pan-am-retro-green-screen-world/

Mark
 
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