TMP (I like the nickname The Motionless Picture) and TUC (after hearing good things about it, I expected a better movie, but it turned out to be flat and cliched, without good interactions from the characters like those in II, IV, and V. Guessed it was the vulcan woman who sabotaged the mission right away...).
The most disappointing Trek Movie..
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though I love TUC, I'll admit that the "mystery" aspect of the plot isn't that great, mostly because there aren't a lot of suspects in the first place, and the ones there are are pretty obvious.
well as a child, TFFS, was a little disapointed as the follow up to TWOK. Which is the king of kings in Star Trek movies. The first one i saw was TFF and was my introduction to TOS, and to me it seemed like a 1990 action flick, which was i guess what it was. So anything after ST V seemed so good!
On opening day in 1982 the space battles had you squirming in your seat?
Yep. The part that really had me was the whole "two dimensional thinking" bit. The Enterprise halts her forward movement and begins to sink. The Reliant passes "overhead", and then the Big -E "surfaces" behind her. Oh good lord.... My buddy and I both started doing the "bu-dump, bu-dump, bu-dump" bit from Jaws. Notice the Reliant's aspect profile from ahead, astern or abeam? Compare it to her aspect profile from a dorsal or ventral perspective. Wouldn't it have made more sense and been a less ludicrous scene to have had Enterprise bows on - a "nose up" attitude relative to Reliant - raking Reliant's ventral surfaces as she passed "above" or forward of Enterprise?
That's just one example. Remember, I was 22 in '82 and a hard core, died in the wool naval and military historian with a passion for tactics and a more than passing interest in physics.
I'm saying it should have been Chekov having a "Piotr" flashback.
The big "Cinefantastique" issue covering the film came out in Australia a few days before I received my invitation to a sneak preview of ST VI. I decided not to spoilerize myself (as I had done for STs III, IV and V). I refused to read the articles, just looked at the photos and read some of the captions. One caption identified "... the traitor Valeris".
Thanks for nothing, "Cinefantastique".
That was one of the most misleading trailers ever! I thought Kirk that the Enterprise-B would somehow meet the Enterprise-D and that Kirk would end up on the bridge of the Enterprise-D.
Well yeah, I was disappointed, too.
Generations!!!! WORST Star Trek movie EVER! Wasn't even enjoyable in a "so bad its good" kinda way like STV.
Generation IMO was a jump the shark moment in the franchise and it almost killed my love of Star Trek...that and the AWFUL Star Trek Voyager and the last two TNG films. If it weren't for DS9 I may have abounded Trek all together in the mid 90's.
Generation IMO was a jump the shark moment in the franchise and it almost killed my love of Star Trek...that and the AWFUL Star Trek Voyager and the last two TNG films. If it weren't for DS9 I may have abounded Trek all together in the mid 90's.
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For me its Insurrection. First Contact was so good, and then Insurrection came out and sucked all of the fun out of Trek movies.
I can tolerate Generations because I think Malcolm McDowwell has some pretty good quotes in that movie.
I can tolerate Generations because I think Malcolm McDowwell has some pretty good quotes in that movie.
Wow, there's a thought. Imagine what it would've been like to see the turbolift doors open, and Kirk see the bridge of the Ent-D for the first time, and slowly stroll out onto the bridge in awe of it's "size and complexity"...
... and then see WORF!
Missed opportunity. Probably among so many.
^I would have presumed that in the Nexus, James Kirk would have been in his early to mid-30s "Hopping Galaxies" in the NCC-1701 with no bloody A, B, C, or D. Instead we have William Shatner showing off his horse and his property. Horses may be a passion for William Shatner, but I just don't see them being a passion for Kirk.
I like all the Trek movies, but the bottom spot is tied between Star Trek (2009) and First Contact.
With First Contact the conflict feels forced. They personified the Borg in the form of the Borg Queen to give Picard a arch-enemy to fight in the movie, and it just feels so forced. For me Picard's inner demons would have worked a lot better if he was ragging against the Borg as they were for most of TNG: Insects, a force of nature. He's ragging against and assigning a personal motive to something that doesn't understand those sort of concepts would have been more interesting and amplified the horror that Picard was put through. Instead we got the Queen; the Borg that spawned a million slash-fics. They put a face on something that didn't need a face, and lessened their menace in the process.
First Contact isn't a bad movie, just-- for me-- not one that I care for watching to often.
With First Contact the conflict feels forced. They personified the Borg in the form of the Borg Queen to give Picard a arch-enemy to fight in the movie, and it just feels so forced. For me Picard's inner demons would have worked a lot better if he was ragging against the Borg as they were for most of TNG: Insects, a force of nature. He's ragging against and assigning a personal motive to something that doesn't understand those sort of concepts would have been more interesting and amplified the horror that Picard was put through. Instead we got the Queen; the Borg that spawned a million slash-fics. They put a face on something that didn't need a face, and lessened their menace in the process.
First Contact isn't a bad movie, just-- for me-- not one that I care for watching to often.
I was underwhelmed by STVI and INS when first viewing them. Nemesis I think is the most underrated.
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