Star Wars: The Clone Wars S4

[Captain Qwert Jr]

You misunderstood me. My fault, no doubt.

I am not a fan of clone wars at all. Outside the first season, I've only seen the season premieres and closers. I didn't even plan on seeing this one but I was up early in the morning and had time to kill. The point I failed to make was, why did this one set people off?

This ep had the same inexplicable force powers, the same contrived plotting, the same magic science, the lead is still an unstable mass-murderer, and of course at every opportunity Lucas is shoving his pro-monarchist agenda down the viewer's throats.
In other words, it's same old/same old since '99.
Season 1 was the time for constructive critique. At Season 2 you can still delude yourself. (I have at times, I'll admit. the triumph of hope over experience, and all that) But after season 4, It's bit too late to pretend it's something it's not.
Still, even by my absurdly high standards this one actually had some good points, so the anger, which I perhaps misread, in this site and others surprised me a bit. I would have thought people would be happier to find a piece of meat in their gruel.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Why all the venom? It's clone wars. A show that wants to be Wagner and Sesame Street at same time.

Great description!

 

[Set Harth]

Yes, when confronted with the obvious, a nonsensical argument is always the best response. Because, obviously, comparing the events of a TV show set between films is absolutely the equivalent of comparing the events of just films by themselves.

Going by the above, it looks like a nonsensical argument might not be the best response.

 

[Yevetha]

Qwert posted:

every opportunity Lucas is shoving his pro-monarchist agenda down the viewer's throats.

He is a great fan of Platos philosopher king.

 

[Hound of UIster]

of course at every opportunity Lucas is shoving his pro-monarchist agenda down the viewer's throats.

Hardly. The Empire is shown as ultimately the greatest evil in the galaxy.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Last time I checked, a great many fairy tales had kings and queens in them. Surely more people besides me have realized that "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." is a science fiction update of "Once upon a time...."?

Well, I guess a contributor to this Wikipedia article realized that too.

 

[Checkmate]

I don't mind monarchies. It's the weird way he uses the titles that bugs me. Especially on Naboo.

 

[timothy]

I don't mind monarchies. It's the weird way he uses the titles that bugs me. Especially on Naboo.

how does it bug you. they probably started off as a monarchy and grew into a democracy. and kept the title to pay homage to the original monarchy. I just wonder if they ever ellect men on nabo and why do they star so young in politics.


over all I thought underwater battle was awesome and understood that the would be really different than in space.
it's interesting that laser work in water I would've figured they would come up with some new kinda weaponry for underwater battles.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that kinda surprised me too. Have we heard about or seen Lightsabers under water before?

 

[Saga]

Yeah, that kinda surprised me too. Have we heard about or seen Lightsabers under water before?

yes, in the Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars series. it had an episode very similar to the Season 4 premier.

 

[Yevetha]

of course at every opportunity Lucas is shoving his pro-monarchist agenda down the viewer's throats.

Hardly. The Empire is shown as ultimately the greatest evil in the galaxy.

I disagree the Vong are the most evil.

 

[Mach5]

I disagree the Vong are the most evil.

>EU
>canon

pick one

 

[ALF]

So episode 3 this season continues the story at Mon Calamari. I didn't even notice that they (Republic and Gungans) were captured at the end of ep2. I am getting pretty tired of the location. This is the only snag I think that the clone wars have... in practice I think episodic Star Wars is great because bad ones are forgotten easily because there are a steady stream of other episodes to enjoy. The 3 episode arc can drag if it's not interesting, though. I'm reminded of the "Ghosts of Mortis" trilogy which I don't think I can bear to sit through ever again.

 

[Yevetha]

I disagree the Vong are the most evil.

>EU
>canon

pick one

Why pick when i can have it both?

 

[Mach5]

I disagree the Vong are the most evil.

>EU
>canon

pick one

Why pick when i can have it both?

Sure you can, as long as you don't confuse them with one another. You can't compare the Vong with The Empire, unless the topic at hand is actually an EU discussion.

Vast majority of people never even heard of the Vong, Admiral Thrawn, Prince Xizor etc. To them, there is no Star Wars beyond the movies. And, as of late, Clone Wars (GL practically canonized it in one of the interviews).

 

[Whofan]

Then why did Lucas play a Thrawn in ROTS

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Are you referring to Baron Papanodia? He wasn't a Chiss. He was a Pantoran. He also reprised the role last season.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Apparently every alien thats blue is a chiss in Whofan's book.

Does that mean he thinks James Cameron is infringing on George Lucas's iintellectual property with Avatar?

 

[Yevetha]

I wonder what are we going to get in Shadow Warrior.

 

[Saul]

So episode 3 this season continues the story at Mon Calamari. I didn't even notice that they (Republic and Gungans) were captured at the end of ep2. I am getting pretty tired of the location. This is the only snag I think that the clone wars have... in practice I think episodic Star Wars is great because bad ones are forgotten easily because there are a steady stream of other episodes to enjoy. The 3 episode arc can drag if it's not interesting, though. I'm reminded of the "Ghosts of Mortis" trilogy which I don't think I can bear to sit through ever again.

I too thought that the story was finished in the opening 2 episodes. It really didn't keep my attention and the 3rd episode was even more boring. No more hazy green water next week I hope.