Refit Times

[MarsWeeps]

The Japanese god of joy and laughter.

Don't you mean Ho-Ti?

 

[Cary L. Brown]

The Japanese god of joy and laughter.

Exactly! Damn, it's good to see someone who didn't let their educational opportunities go entirely to waste.

Curiously, I had a hard time finding any references to the real (sic) version of this figure. However, there is a fictional take on this entity which reversed the name order... here's some reference on this fictionalized variation.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hoti.htm

 

[MarsWeeps]

The Japanese god of joy and laughter.

Exactly! Damn, it's good to see someone who didn't let their educational opportunities go entirely to waste.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hoti.htm

In Shane Johnson's book, Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, the ship was Ti-Ho, not Ho-Ti.

 

[blssdwlf]

Aircraft carriers are probably an exception: fires raging on the hangar decks may well claim a large percentage of the ship's crew while the ship ultimately survives. Are there any examples of such in WWII?

Don’t know about World War II, but during the Vietnam war, the carrier U.S.S. Forrestal suffered massive damage in a fire that killed 134 sailors and injured 161 others. The ship underwent repairs and was put back in service eight months later.

In WW2 there were two carriers, the USS Franklin CV-13 which suffered over 40% casualties and USS Bunker Hill CV-17 with about 25% casualties. Both kept their names and were decommissioned after the war.

I like BK613's theory the most and that a new build (perhaps the last of the new Connies) had it's name bumped and renamed Enterprise. Personally, I think it's more for Starfleet to keep Enterprise on the books to annoy (or intimidate) the Klingons and Romulans

 

[David cgc]

Both are non-canon, but it was either Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise or the FASA books (I think the former) that said the 1701-A was originally a new ship to be named the Ti-Ho.

Where did that name come from? It sounds like a corner mom-and-pop grocery store run by an elderly couple named Tilly and Homer.

I'm pretty sure it came out of Shane Johnson's rear end.

Not entirely. It was a reference to a friend's science fiction stories where that was the main ship. I don't remember the entire story, and it was only posted in an interview here that was pruned years ago.

As for FASA, they said the A was a new ship originally contracted under the name Atlantis.

 

[Funngunner]

The best two examples of a "refit" on the scale of Enterprise's changes from TOS to TMP that I can throw in would be the modernization of the Arizona and the other Pearl Harbor battleships in the early 1930s. The ships were all from WW1 and received new engines, new boilers, new guns and fire control systems, lost their torpedo tubes, in addition to massive changes to their superstructure and armor arrangements. It took two years to complete this modernization for each ship

This site shows a good before and after ...
http://www.pastfoundation.org/Arizona/ArizonaHistory_2.htm

Another good yardstick for this sort of work (note refit doesnt really describe this level of work being done on a ship) would be the modernization of the Essex class carriers after WW2. New island, catapults, completely new flight deck and look nothing like they originally did...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCB-125