6.5x08 Let's Kill Hitler (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)
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It's a Mrs Robinson reference from 'The Graduate' I loved the Doctor wondering who Benjamin was supposed to be.
-The modern-day scenes of The Impossible Astronaut take place in April 2011, as indicated in the alien database in Let's Kill Hitler showing the Doctor's date of death.
-When reunited with the Doctor in Let's Kill Hitler, Amy asks "you've had all summer, have you found my daughter?" "All summer" presumably means summer 2011.
I think it has been mentioned before that the series is taking place as close to "real time" as possible. Or in other words in our present "real time". We've not skipped ahead or anything like that. When Amy and Rory are returned to the present it's relatively close to our present time. Unless there have been jumps that I'm not aware of. I know that jumps in time happened in RTD's run.
What did she meab "all summer" anyway? Doctor could have been searching for years or all of 5 minutes.
Obviously she means all summer relative to herself.
I know that. But Amy knows that it's meaningless for the Doctor. Unless she kept a 24/7 phone call open to stay in sync with him. 
Not to mentio the Doctor "Borrowed" the TARDIS without permission.
Shouldn't the Doctor have gotten River's reference? He made a similar one by giving her the code name Mrs. Robinson in "The Impossible Astronaut".
Lots of fun. Lots of action. Lots of history getting chewed up. Lots of answers given. Lots of new questions arising. Brilliant.
There was a lot in the episode, I do think maybe a case of too much thrown in, but at the same time, I'd have hated for the whole Mels thing to be dragged out before the reveal of her as River. As for the lack of Hitler in the episode, really you couldn't have dealt with him too much lest someone be offended, and to me the title bespoke more of the person who said 'Let's Kill Hitler' than it did imply an episode about Hitler. To that end, we got an episode very River focused and dishing out a lot of answers as fans speculated.
As for the over story arc, really how much does the story arc interfere from week to week? There are stand alone episodes aplenty amid the arc centric episodes and even they can be enjoyed on their own to an extent - the latest episode was a time travelling assassin in Hitler's office. Sounds like fun.
My only thing about any episodes is the lack of alien worlds visited by NuDoc. So I'd dig more of that. Though Moffet seems to imply in recent comments that season 7 will provide more of that kind of episode and story telling.
There was a lot in the episode, I do think maybe a case of too much thrown in, but at the same time, I'd have hated for the whole Mels thing to be dragged out before the reveal of her as River. As for the lack of Hitler in the episode, really you couldn't have dealt with him too much lest someone be offended, and to me the title bespoke more of the person who said 'Let's Kill Hitler' than it did imply an episode about Hitler. To that end, we got an episode very River focused and dishing out a lot of answers as fans speculated.
As for the over story arc, really how much does the story arc interfere from week to week? There are stand alone episodes aplenty amid the arc centric episodes and even they can be enjoyed on their own to an extent - the latest episode was a time travelling assassin in Hitler's office. Sounds like fun.
My only thing about any episodes is the lack of alien worlds visited by NuDoc. So I'd dig more of that. Though Moffet seems to imply in recent comments that season 7 will provide more of that kind of episode and story telling.
Well, since "Mrs Robinson" already lived thru "Let's Kill Hitler", maybe that's why she responds, "I hate you" when he gives her that code name. I don't think it was an throw away line (Mrs Robinson). I think it was the Doctor reminding River of what she did/will do.
How did Rory and Amy get back to earth in their time after AMGTW? River? Because I thought the Doctor had left them behind.
One would hope River took them back, since the Doctor asked to make sure they got home safe.
I forgot about that line, but I thought so. And also what happened to that River? She just went back to prison, like she usually does?
I loved the episode but I did have two questions:
1. Why does litte Amelia remember the Doctor? Shouldn't she have no memory since the Doctor rebooted the universe?
2. I thought I heard in an episode this season that River and the Doctor are meeting in reverse order. River's past is the Doctor's future and vice versa. Shouldn't the first time River meets the Doctor be the last time the Doctor meets River?
1. Why does litte Amelia remember the Doctor? Shouldn't she have no memory since the Doctor rebooted the universe?
2. I thought I heard in an episode this season that River and the Doctor are meeting in reverse order. River's past is the Doctor's future and vice versa. Shouldn't the first time River meets the Doctor be the last time the Doctor meets River?
Okay- I'm not reading the whole 17 pages here, so here's my two cents on this episode.
I love Doctor Who, but I had a hell of a time with this episode. Pure and utter crap. The whole Amy having a Time Lord baby who was obviously made in order to give the Doctor more future regenerative abilities.
That was bad enough. But the whole River Song being Amy's kids was just idiotic. And the HUGE plot hole with Amy apparently not really caring about her missing baby because the Doctor reassures her that she is okay because she has obviously grown up- more crap... No mother would give up fighting night and day if she had the ability to search for her child.
Why didn't the Doctor take her to hunt for her baby?
Christ the writing is just getting nasty for this series. Ever since the episode where the Doctor scares off an entire army of enemies with mere words.
Man- this is getting so disappointing. And how do we top the Doctor saving the ENTIRE freakin universe????!!!! What's next? This time he saves every dimesion in existence?
Sorry- I had to vent. I'm just disappointed with the stories lately
I love Doctor Who, but I had a hell of a time with this episode. Pure and utter crap. The whole Amy having a Time Lord baby who was obviously made in order to give the Doctor more future regenerative abilities.
That was bad enough. But the whole River Song being Amy's kids was just idiotic. And the HUGE plot hole with Amy apparently not really caring about her missing baby because the Doctor reassures her that she is okay because she has obviously grown up- more crap... No mother would give up fighting night and day if she had the ability to search for her child.
Why didn't the Doctor take her to hunt for her baby?
Christ the writing is just getting nasty for this series. Ever since the episode where the Doctor scares off an entire army of enemies with mere words.
Man- this is getting so disappointing. And how do we top the Doctor saving the ENTIRE freakin universe????!!!! What's next? This time he saves every dimesion in existence?
Sorry- I had to vent. I'm just disappointed with the stories lately
Well, The Doctor has always been able to scare off armies with mere words, especially when he's angry.
Nope. As soon as the TARDIS appeared at the wedding, he became part of history again and everyone remembered him and, apparently, had the whole time, except when they hadn't (Rory: "The Doctor. How did we forget the Doctor? He was the stripper in the cake. I was made of plastic..."), and even before that, when Amy started ranting at the reception, her parents recognized her "imaginary friend." The Doctor said to little Amy before he walked into the crack that she'd still remember him as a story.
