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Oh, I have no doubt men are at least as bad. I just wish all the men who have topless photos in front of their car and talk about sex in the first convo could hook up with all the tattoo-loving, beer-swilling women, they can all talk "lik dis" to each other, and the remaining three percent of us can find each other.

Not bitter AT ALL. :D

A-men!

Just because you're having sex with a crazy gal doesn't mean you don't use a condom.

And you seriously think that using a condom is going to stop a gal who wants a baby getting pregnant ... ?
 
Oh, I have no doubt men are at least as bad. I just wish all the men who have topless photos in front of their car and talk about sex in the first convo could hook up with all the tattoo-loving, beer-swilling women, they can all talk "lik dis" to each other, and the remaining three percent of us can find each other.

Not bitter AT ALL. :D

A-men!

Just because you're having sex with a crazy gal doesn't mean you don't use a condom.

And you seriously think that using a condom is going to stop a gal who wants a baby getting pregnant ... ?

Condoms are like drinks: don't use one somebody else gave you.

If you're that worried about it, then yeah, don't go there. "Crazy" comes in forms besides "lunatic who desperately wants a baby."
 
Then again, don't put your dick in crazy.

Nonsense.


yeah, go ahead, and when she phones you at 3am to hysterically tell you "I'm pregnant", don't come crying to me looking for sympathy...

I have known women do that sort of thing, get yourself preggers while not 100% out of previous relationship, so second guy will stand by you and you won't be alone...


I need to find me some new gal pals.

Oh, that's happened to me. Although in a different way--it was a more short-term, mercenary plan, involving getting me to fork over money for an abortion.

"What proof do you need? I'm telling you, aren't I?"

sidious618 said:
Just because you're having sex with a crazy gal doesn't mean you don't use a condom.

I really think people overstate the need for condoms (as a birth control method). Pregnancy is best facilitated by ejaculating inside someone. Without that, and without living sperm inside the urethra that may be flushed into the vagina by pre-ejaculate, the statistical chance of conception without it is about that of Jesus' (do you think Joseph might have just stuck the tip in?).

To paraphrase G.K. Chesterson, coitus interruptus has not been tried and found wanting, it's been found difficult and left untried.

I guess it's still important for folks not immune to HIV.
 
It's one of those things where if you don't want it to happen, you really don't want it to happen. Who'd want to risk even a small chance of getting pregnant?
 
Condoms: not 100% effective. Even birth control is not totally effective, and from my point of view, extremely unreliable--I have no direct control over a woman taking her birth control pills on the indicated basis, short of some kind of bizarre monitoring system that only exists in horror movies. As you say, it's one of those things that you really don't want to happen (unless you're planning a child); that kind of extreme risk demands full personal control over the outcome.

At the same time, other than disease prevention, as noted, there's simply no reason not to work out alternate ejaculation strategies.
 
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Well that date tonight (new girl) didn't go so great. She had me up until she started talking about how great communism is. :eek: Yeah, we need a change, I'll agree with that, but communism ain't it.
 
I'm mainly picking on the communism thing because she cut out real quick after the meal. :lol: Blind dates: they don't always work.
 
Most women, like most people (at least most white people*), round here are Republicans, and at best socially libertarian. A dangerously radical leftist would be a nice change of pace. :p Plus perhaps I could impress her with my knowledge of Soviet armed forces history.:borg:

(Seriously, not to perpetuate stereotypes, but I'm more worried about every electron in body spontaneously missing every electron in the floor and falling into my downstair's neighbor's living room than I am expecting my knowledge of the Steppe Front's role during Operation Zitadelle or the ability to differentiate between Lake Khasan and Khalkin Gol to ever impress a woman.)

*Not averse to dating a black woman, of course, but I meet even fewer of them than I do white chicks. De facto segregation: it's what's for dinner.
 
Condoms: not 100% effective. Even birth control is not totally effective, and from my point of view, extremely unreliable--I have no direct control over a woman taking her birth control pills on the indicated basis, short of some kind of bizarre monitoring system that only exists in horror movies. As you say, it's one of those things that you really don't want to happen (unless you're planning a child); that kind of extreme risk demands full personal control over the outcome.

Alternate ejaculation strategies are legit, too, no doubt. However, birth control is pretty much 100% reliable if both parties are using it. Now I know it can be said that it's really only 99.999999999% but what in life isn't? So for our purposes it's 100%.

There's also a misconception that if the condom breaks then there's a pregnancy. Not so. A) Any halfway aware man can feel a condom break and B) Even if sperm enters the woman it does not in any way promise a pregnancy.
 
Condoms: not 100% effective. Even birth control is not totally effective, and from my point of view, extremely unreliable--I have no direct control over a woman taking her birth control pills on the indicated basis, short of some kind of bizarre monitoring system that only exists in horror movies. As you say, it's one of those things that you really don't want to happen (unless you're planning a child); that kind of extreme risk demands full personal control over the outcome.

Alternate ejaculation strategies are legit, too, no doubt. However, birth control is pretty much 100% reliable if both parties are using it. Now I know it can be said that it's really only 99.999999999% but what in life isn't? So for our purposes it's 100%.

Fair enough.

Alternate ejaculation strategies are legit, too, no doubt.
The standard in our sexual training films for over 40 years.

Also, that's a great set of words isn't it? It's evidently a completely novel English phrase, so I'm pretty proud of it.

(However, the more correct "alternative ejaculation strategies" appears exactly once on the Internet, in a paper on beetle sex. :( )

There's also a misconception that if the condom breaks then there's a pregnancy. Not so. A) Any halfway aware man can feel a condom break and B) Even if sperm enters the woman it does not in any way promise a pregnancy.
Indeed.
 
If you're that worried about it, then yeah, don't go there. "Crazy" comes in forms besides "lunatic who desperately wants a baby."

This is true

And you seriously think that using a condom is going to stop a gal who wants a baby getting pregnant ... ?

Well so long as you put it on properly, yes.

Oh, so you can put one on while you're sound asleep?

Yes dearie, that wet dream, wasn't necessarily a dream... when you're done shagging, get out of bed and go home.



Your best option to avoid pregnancy and/or STDs is either celibacy, or getting yourself 'fixed'
 
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