DC to REBOOT???

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Yeah, it seems like it's going to be a soft reboot for some characters and a hard reboot for others. As I said earlier, it seems odd to have spent so much time in recent events reintroducing characters into the current continuity if a reboot was imminent. I think a 100% hard reboot across the entire line following a series of hog wild apocalyptic events would have been a better way to go, but it's early days and how this all plays out remains to be seen.

 

[23skidoo]

Action Comics and Detective Comics should never be renumbered in my opinion.

Anyway, my guess is a) it won't turn out to be a full reboot and b) at least some titles, especially Action and Detective, will return to their original numbering at some point.

I agree. If they do this, I feel strongly enough about it I might stop buying DC Comics cold turkey. I want to see Action and Detective make it to 1000 numbered issues, both for the historical aspect and as a celebration of printed publications.

As I read more about this, the more it's pissing me off. Rebooting characters, etc - as noted, they do this every few years and it's lost all its impact. Especially something like this that does have "temporary" stamped all over it - just like they "killed" Superman in Doomsday and "killed" Batman after Final Crisis.

Fortunately there is plenty of precedent for fanbases to turn around and say "NO!" and companies to cave. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but if users can make Facebook blink when it does something stupid, then if enough fans turn around and say they reject, say, the elimination of history by resetting the numbering of Action or Detective, then maybe DC might say "OK, never mind". Actually there is precedent even for the numbering issue - I just remembered how reader pressure got DC to restore the original numbering for Wonder Woman and Adventure Comics a few years back.

Alex

 

[Mysterion]

Five bucks on the table right now that this whole thing turns out to be some sort of temporary nonsense. The old continuity and numbering will be back after 6 months to a year or so. And if DC is lucky, so will their readership.

 

[Vendikarr]

My continuing to read DC depends solely on what they do with the JSA.

They are making the JLA members younger now. Superman and Batman are currently depicted as being in their mid to late 30s. Interviews say they will be younger. My guess they will make them mid to late 20s. Clip off a decade, and what about Tim Drake? Connor Kent? Damien Wayne?

Do these characters vanish?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

So, we're going to be able to download comics digitally the day that they're released?

I may start following some of these titles every month for the first time in many years...in fact my comic reading may quadruple in September.

 

[TheArsenal]

Yeah, it seems like it's going to be a soft reboot for some characters and a hard reboot for others. As I said earlier, it seems odd to have spent so much time in recent events reintroducing characters into the current continuity if a reboot was imminent. I think a 100% hard reboot across the entire line following a series of hog wild apocalyptic events would have been a better way to go, but it's early days and how this all plays out remains to be seen.

I have no idea which way they will go. But agreed, a hard reboot would be better.

I imagine changing some things while allowing others to go untouched would create a tangled, messy, confusing continuity.

They are making the JLA members younger now. Superman and Batman are currently depicted as being in their mid to late 30s. Interviews say they will be younger. My guess they will make them mid to late 20s. Clip off a decade, and what about Tim Drake? Connor Kent? Damien Wayne?

Do these characters vanish?

Vanish? They may. Who knows?

I can't see how they could keep any of the current storyline, no less the all the various Robins you mentioned if they go with a younger Batman. The comparative ages of Tim Drake, Dick Grayson and Batman barely makes sense right now.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Here's the full cover for Justice League #1. As you can see, Cyborg is part of the team, so they're not reverting the original Teen Titans back to their teen sidekick status to star in the new Teen Titans book. The new Justice League will have a 14-member team roster.

Here's a USA Today story about the reboot.

 

[AviTrek]

I agree. If they do this, I feel strongly enough about it I might stop buying DC Comics cold turkey. I want to see Action and Detective make it to 1000 numbered issues, both for the historical aspect and as a celebration of printed publications.

They will revert back to the original numbering long before AC hits 1000. They've done number changes before and always switched back. It will take a little over 8 years before AC was scheduled to hit 1000. There will be at least one more reboot/renumbering between now and then.

 

[BillJ]

Here's the full cover for Justice League #1.

What's with the weird 'V-neck' most are wearing. It's the Justice League not Burger King.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm fine with having Cyborg as part of the team, but how is giving the suits extra lines around the forearms and heads making them more modern?

 

[TheArsenal]

Here's the full cover for Justice League #1.

What's with the weird 'V-neck' most are wearing. It's the Justice League not Burger King.

No opinion on the V-necks.

It's hard to see, but it does look like the 1930's strong-man underwear on the outside look may be gone.

That alone makes it worth it.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's hard to say definitively from the coloring, but it kind of looks like Supes has lost the red underwear.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The red BVDs are definitely gone. Not being an artist, I'd like to see some other kind of color breakup somewhere on those blue tights, maybe panels of darker blue somewhere.

Wonder Woman is wearing the costume from her not-quite TV series. Looks damn good on her.

Costume changes are, of course, trivial - they'll all be changed again in short order.

 

[Hound of UIster]

The WW costume is the tweeked version from the reboot minus the jacket

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

So WW's TV outfit was a close copy of the comic reboot version?

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

So WW's TV outfit was a close copy of the comic reboot version?

This is Jim Lee's redesign of Wonder Woman's costume from last year.

 

[Thestral]

Jacket aside, that look's really grown on me (though granted I never had a problem with it in the first place) so let's hope it sticks around for a good long time.

Glad to hear they'll still have the JSA, it'll be interesting to see their place in a "rebooted" universe - and who's still around, for that matter.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

So basically the same as the TV version - although today's drawing shows a great deal more boobage, along the lines of Palicki's outfit, than the Lee drawing suggests would be the case.

 

[TheArsenal]

Let's have a look at the crystal ball ...

USA Today. June 14, 2012.

.... Mike Fetzman, who replaced outgoing Senior Editor and VP Dan DiDio, excitedly announced a Universe Wide Event that would roll back the recent changes made to DC Comics with their 2011 reboot. "It will turn out," Fetzman explained "that the whole thing was a dream. One of those crazy vivid pizza and ice cream dreams ... "

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Sorry, but Alan Moore had the final word on that stuff in the narration to "Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow?"