2x13 - Alliances
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it was an underwhelming ep for me. Stargate as always been an "epic" series, when i think of the LA attacking earth a cloaked cargo ship crashing into HWC[pentagon?] on a suicide run [whos plan wasnt to commit suicide?!] that was not what i was picturing...the series as a whole has been underwhelming with a few standout eps i gave it a 2.5 out of 5
Agreed no SFX provided what so ever.
Another thing i wonder about is how long can they keep all this hidden from the public?
In the old days you had just a few SG teams working out of a mountain complex. now you have not only that but a few ships with decent crews, off world bases and projects, other world goverments that are in on it, various polititions. A lot of these people on bases and ships dieing, attacks on earth covered up. etc.. etc. It's just rediculas now.
Speaking of that.. they made an issue out of the Destiny 'Finding God' and the possible implications back home. Who gives a shit, the public does not even know this is all going on. The Dr guy made it sould like the it would create a public debate.
thank you brent..it seems like SGU wants to be a stargate show, yet disregards everything stargate that came before it, like in the season 1 finale when sam left her 302 pilots when the planet was going critical, we saw in SGA that asgard beam has a very very VERY long range. as said before they want this series to be more "realistic" so they throw out all the logic of "oh we have access to the most powerful alien tech in galaxy" but that would be to scifi-ish
If the project was still being run out of a mountain base, this episode couldn't have even happened. You know, being protected by a big honkin' mountain and all.
Instead, we're now operating out of the middle of... Washington, D.C.??!! Yes, that sounds secure. See the Young Justice pilot, "Independence Day", for why that is a bad idea. Assuming this episode wasn't enough.
A throwaway line to the effect that "we can't decode most of the Asgard database and we're having trouble maintaining the few pieces of tech we've got" would have done it.
I can see why they'd want to establish a show without all the baggage that's built up over the last few years. Godlike technology, intergalactic travel, Carter and McKay who can decipher and reverse-engineer alien tech with five minutes' lead time, etc. If you keep all those things, there's no dramatic tension. Destiny's crew could have come home right after they arrived.
But the problem is that the show is still implicitly based around all those things. There's no discussion of Stargate lore, because it assumes you already know. What's the significance of a 9-symbol address? Why does it make a difference where the point-of-origin symbol is located? What happens if you stick your arm into the event horizon of a destination Stargate?
Heck, has this show ever specifically pointed out that wormhole travel is only one-way? A rather important point, there.
So, if you're expected to know all this stuff about Stargate travel, that assumes all the other baggage that comes with it is still true as well unless they specifically tell us otherwise. They needed to do a better job of setting this up as something independent of the other Stargate shows.
Stargate Command =/= Homeworld Command. As far as has been stated by TPTB Cheyenne Mountain is still the location of the Stargate and still where teams embark from. Homeworld Command is the just the bureaucratic arm.
I thought we were told or shown at some point that the gate had been moved there? Maybe I'm remembering that wrong.
The only people that don't know about the gate and aliens are the little people. The various governments are like the Goulds. They have tech thousands of years ahead or at least hundreds while the little people are stuck in their version of the shitty medieval village with rags for clothes. When a Senator or President needed some cool alien healing tech they would get it. Little people are just left to rot.
The SGC has access to Naquida reactors and other high energy systems, but let the rest of the world run on dirty nuke tech, coal, and oil.
The SGC has access to Naquida reactors and other high energy systems, but let the rest of the world run on dirty nuke tech, coal, and oil.
Atlantis still has to be on Earth, it makes no sense to move it. With that, the Lucian Alliance poses no threat to Earth. I find the whole thing ridiculous. They created this threat with the alliance wanting to attack Earth just so they would have conflict in the show, but it makes no sense.
Why doesn't it? People keep repeating this but offer no reasoning behind it. Yes Earth could head off a direct attack from the LA with Ha'taks, but why would they ever attack that way? They have cloaked ships that Earth can't detect. If anything is silly, it's that people aren't taking the threat more serious than they are. Earth has has absolutely no means to protect itself from these attacks as things stand, at only avoided catastrophe in the last episode due to dumb luck.
I'm Atlantis was moved off of earth, there's little sense in keeping two stargates on the same planet we've seen in the past how that could lead to a disaster.
Atlantis is on Earth, The last we saw about Atlantis was the SGA finale, and it was on Earth, nothing on screen in SGU has indicated otherwise either. We have to assume its still on Earth given what we've seen so far. We can't just say maybe it isn't there, the last known facts are that is there.
If you want to study Atlantis, crack its database, etc... the best place to study it is on Earth, right where it was. We have to go with what we've seen in the show, and what we have seen indicates Atlantis is on Earth.
Given that, I agree with the above, Atlantis would be a perfect Stargate Command. Also, it would be a great defense against Lucian Alliance attacks.
If you want to study Atlantis, crack its database, etc... the best place to study it is on Earth, right where it was. We have to go with what we've seen in the show, and what we have seen indicates Atlantis is on Earth.
Given that, I agree with the above, Atlantis would be a perfect Stargate Command. Also, it would be a great defense against Lucian Alliance attacks.
Well in last weeks episode Telford was in the stone room at the Pentagon, only hours after ariving by the gate. So he could have flew quickly there, or got 'beamed' there or the gate is at the pentagon. No evidence either way.
The LA know they can not do a direct attack like Apophis and Anubis tryed, so they have to resort to terrorist like tactics. Just surprised with all the Ancient and Asguard tech Earth has they still can't detect a cloaked cargo ship.
I 'believe' Atlantis is back in Pegasus, but hopefully we will find out in the Mckay episode. I will be pissed if they don't mention Atlantis there.
Side note, I wonder if Earth would deploy 'beaming' satalites, so people can beam around Earth with out a BC304 around, would be do-able I imagine if it were powered on Earth and the satalites were merly relays of the beam.
The LA know they can not do a direct attack like Apophis and Anubis tryed, so they have to resort to terrorist like tactics. Just surprised with all the Ancient and Asguard tech Earth has they still can't detect a cloaked cargo ship.
I 'believe' Atlantis is back in Pegasus, but hopefully we will find out in the Mckay episode. I will be pissed if they don't mention Atlantis there.
Side note, I wonder if Earth would deploy 'beaming' satalites, so people can beam around Earth with out a BC304 around, would be do-able I imagine if it were powered on Earth and the satalites were merly relays of the beam.
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His character in the movie was Feretti; he died in season one of SG-1.
I thought this episode was good. A bit of a downer though. Figured that the airman was LA pretty quickly.
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