Why are there no overweight or obese people in Star Trek?

[Nerys Myk]

Why no fat Star Trek characters? Some suggestions:

1. It is a star ship: astronauts have to be fit, no matter what their particular specialty, whether medicine, combat, engineering, psychology, etc.

2. The future according to Roddenberry has supernatural medical and nutritional technology. Space-age liposuction, preservation and flavour without harmful additives, pain-free weight maintenance.

(3. And those of you who want to see more fat people in science fiction television can be happy that the trend is inching away from 1960s eye-candy in mini-skirts: we now have Donna Noble and Eli Wallace. Of course Doctor Who had Colin Baker and Perpugilliam Brown, not exactly fat, but plumper than your average television actor and actress.)

Plump?

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVN9WaKBVvw[/yt]

More please.

 

[ichab]

If you mean the members of the federation that would be because it's a military organization and there would be height and weight standards.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

It is a shame that I cannot "choose" to cease paying income tax. I see it all the time in my job, people that look down on you for working whilst they go into town on their "mobility scooters" to spend their "disability benefits". Wasting NHS resources whilst someone else cannot get a life-saving drug because of a quango's decision. Obesity is not a disability - eat less and excercise more.

Whilst I agree with what your saying, Not a great amount of Overweight or Obese are actually disabled, I live in the same Country as you, I know how messed up some things are, but I still say its the individuals choice, the real thing you should look at is how they are losing out, sure there might be a few who are living off the state, but are they happy? Who the heck is going to be happy zooming around on a Mobility Scooter, being unable to move properly or work...

You say you consider yourself "Leftist"? Yet what you've said is pretty "Right-Wing", as someone else who also considers themselves "Left-Wing", I think about all the aspects, i'm not encouraging it, but i'm not going off on a tangent about how...

It riles me that I pay taxes to fund some lard-arse's "life-choice"

Seriously, this is classic "Tabloid" nonsense (The S*n, White Van Men, The whole corrupted "Working Class" identity "This ain't what I pay my taxes for, grrr!"), your entitled to your opinion, but we all pay tax, if you were disabled or injured you'd be entitled to the very benefits that you are paying for yourself... People tend to ignore that fact when the bitch about how Disabled people are living off their Taxes

I am not bitching about disabled people. I am bitching about people who are "disabled" through their own choice of foods/lack of exercise. As I said, I see alot of it in my job so don't tell me it doesn't happen. People are quite happy to sit in their scooter and have someone run around for them.

I openly recognised and pointed out the aparrent clash of my political beliefs and my opinion on this subject but thankyou for highlighting them again for me.

If you look at my location you will understand why I censored the rag ("news"paper) you mentioned. It doesn't even get sold around here and I don't appreciate being linked with it. For the record, I read The Guardian.

And, it's "You're".

Wow, i never thought of it that way. i guess you can say obese people are indeed, disabled. they can't move around as much as others and often have other health issues.

this just adds more credence to my theory of looking after these people and not throwing them 'to the wolves' of society.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Wow, i never thought of it that way. i guess you can say obese people are indeed, disabled. they can't move around as much as others and often have other health issues.

this just adds more credence to my theory of looking after these people and not throwing them 'to the wolves' of society.

Perhaps you missed the caution given here.

Keep the discussion Trek-centric, or open a new thread in
Misc or TNZ.

 

[Hallaor]

The starfleet is IDEAL... therefore physically fit. I bet they've got a wicked weightroom on the ship... and all the fleet meals are clean. Besides, no one wants to look at gross fat people especially not in starfleet uniforms! Trek is made for the viewing audience.

 

[DBKlingon]

The starfleet is IDEAL... therefore physically fit. I bet they've got a wicked weightroom on the ship... and all the fleet meals are clean. Besides, no one wants to look at gross fat people especially not in starfleet uniforms! Trek is made for the viewing audience.

Dude, if you want to know about the weight room on the Enterprise, there's a whole thread about it over in the TOS section. It's called a "search engine". Hello?

I heard they use this thing called the Velocity WarpDrive Diet to keep everyone looking real slim and sexy. Especially that Borg Seven of Nine! Man, what I wouldn't do to beam her up. She gets my phaser rockhard!

 

[AlphaTrek]

the enterprise crew are RIPPED! i bet most of them do crossfit!

 

[Sisk0]

Society seems to have two ends of the spectrum in how people treat the obese. On one end you have the obnoxious, who ridicule them and are just down right cruel. Then, on the other side you have those that embrace obesity as some new fashion trend for the 21st century. I even saw someone wearing a T-Shirt that said 'Fat is beautiful' in a bold typeface.

So people who are overweight can't be "Beautiful" is that what your saying? Its not a fashion trend, its just people displaying something they stand by, obviously the person in question thinks people who are considered "Fat" are still attractive

Fat people can be beautiful , in the same way as someone who had voluntarily (or involuntarily) infected themselves with any any other disease. That being said, beautiful and attractive aren't the same thing. If you knew a great looking girl who choose to have numerous fungal infections you probably wouldn't find her as attractive as one who chooses not to have numerous fungal infections. (I choose fungal infections, here as an example as they are very common amongst the morbidly obese, I'm sorry if it was gross)

I'm not saying that all fat people choose to be fat, but I am willing to believe that in the 24th century there is help available for those who want to change, and those who like their rotundity simply don't get jobs with fitness requirements

 

[Sisk0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoSJ1y1FSY can i suggest this as the reason why people in star trek aren't obese?

 

[Shazam!]

Perpugilliam Brown, not exactly fat, but plumper than your average television actor and actress.)

WTF?

 

[AlphaTrek]

to be fair most of the non-main crew are scrawny.

are people there not trying very hard?

what % do you think could bench their own bodyweight? not many!

justin bieber could probably take most of them out!

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Why are there no overweight or obese people in Star Trek?

There are, have you seen Star trek Hidden Frontier?

snigger

 

[AlphaTrek]

http://www.tlchicken.com/db_images/6_1_trekkie.jpg

500 pound bench baby!

 

[DBKlingon]

So people who are overweight can't be "Beautiful" is that what your saying? Its not a fashion trend, its just people displaying something they stand by, obviously the person in question thinks people who are considered "Fat" are still attractive

Fat people can be beautiful , in the same way as someone who had voluntarily (or involuntarily) infected themselves with any any other disease. That being said, beautiful and attractive aren't the same thing. If you knew a great looking girl who choose to have numerous fungal infections you probably wouldn't find her as attractive as one who chooses not to have numerous fungal infections. (I choose fungal infections, here as an example as they are very common amongst the morbidly obese, I'm sorry if it was gross)

I'm not saying that all fat people choose to be fat, but I am willing to believe that in the 24th century there is help available for those who want to change, and those who like their rotundity simply don't get jobs with fitness requirements

I think by the 24th century society had eliminated fat people through an aggressive taxation policy. Fat people are a complete drain on society today and there's no reason to think this would be any different in the 24th century.

Think about it: first of all, they aren't beautiful. But beyond that, they're an environmental liability. Their larger surface area requires more clothing, which leads to more clothing manufacturing, which leads to more pollution. Their larger surface areas also necessarily mean that they proudce more btu's than someone in shape, which leads to more pollution. They drive EVERYWHERE, which isn't green. And they weight their cars down more, which means less gas mileage AND more damage to the roads over a long period of time. They eat more fast food, which uses excessive packaging and this causes more garbage. And don't even get me started on their methane gas and waste production.

I think it's safe to say that by the 24th century fat people had been eliminated for the sake of maintaining the integrity of the Earth. There's a whole 'nother thread about the Enterprise's weight room on here that discusses in detail exactly how they stay fit and trim while on their voyages.

 

[AlphaTrek]

english is my not to me first languge

dbklingon helps me to crossfit and we after discuss star trekkies and coffee

would this guess this represent OF be to you be?

I couldn't resist telling him that his mother has a smooth forehead in Klingon though!

but HIS klingon mother fore me gives smooth head!

 

[DBKlingon]

english is my not to me first languge

dbklingon helps me to crossfit and we after discuss star trekkies and coffee

would this guess this represent OF be to you be?

I couldn't resist telling him that his mother has a smooth forehead in Klingon though!

but HIS klingon mother fore me gives smooth head!

At Crossfit tomorrow I'm gonna punch you in your nards during the middle of an Allison workout you Romulan curmudgeon! And no more English lessons at Starbucks for you!

But seriously, do you guys think that by the 24th century obesity had just been eliminated entirely from society by science, through severe societal discouragement due its obviously detrimental effect on the environment, or do you think the weight rooms on all the Starships were so killer that the crew members were super motivated to stay fit and lean with such resources available to them?

Personally, I think that what happened is that there was some sort of society-wide program to eradicate obesity from Earth that probably started in the early 22nd century. People were so fearful of constant criticism and of being branded selfish outcasts of society that they all worked hard to keep from being a fat, wasteful slob. But I think the really cool weight rooms on the Starships help keep the crew members in shape.

 

[AlphaTrek]

At Crossfit tomorrow I'm gonna punch you in your nards during the middle of an Allison workout you Romulan curmudgeon! And no more English lessons at Starbucks for you!

you would like your hand touch to my nards wouldn't you?

 

[DBKlingon]

At Crossfit tomorrow I'm gonna punch you in your nards during the middle of an Allison workout you Romulan curmudgeon! And no more English lessons at Starbucks for you!

you would like your hand touch to my nards wouldn't you?

Your shorts are so small and short I can see them swinging around everytime you kip! I'm practically touching them everytime I spot you during Fran so I figure I may as well go the full nine warpdrives.

 

[AlphaTrek]

at least i wear shorts. you turn up wearing your mama's old spandex pants and try to pass it off as a deep space 9 uniform!

 

[DBKlingon]

at least i wear shorts. you turn up wearing your mama's old spandex pants and try to pass it off as a deep space 9 uniform!

Listen you Burmese piece of shit! I'm gonna put your head in a vise-like scissors lock with my phallus rammed right into your mouth! I'm gonna choke you out swarthy bodybuilder! This is what you use the English lessons I give you for? To assail me and my mother's honor? You shall burn in Gre'Thor!