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Star Trek:EXCELSIOR ....a lost series?

Galileo7

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Did Paramount/Rick Berman & company miss an opportunity by not producing a Star Trek:EXCELSIOR televison series spinoff of ST VI:UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY and ST VOYAGER episode "Flashback" with Captain Sulu and his crew of the starship U.S.S. Excelsior NCC-2000 ? :vulcan:
 
Personally, I'd have preferred to see it to Enterprise. But apparently the viewing figures for Flashback convinced them that there was no market for a Captain Sulu series.

Also IIRC, there were supposed to be protests organised by those wanting such a show at Paramount. However, these proved embarrassingly small, again, seeming to confirm Paramount's view that demand for such a show was small.

I think the person who really wanted to see this show most was George Takei, to be honest ...
 
Yeah I too think George Takei was the strongest proponent behind a "Captain Sulu" series. I can remember reading interviews and blurbs from him in Star Trek Communicator that he was pushing for this and trying to drum up fan support. I know that for myself I would have been interested in seeing an Excelsior series or perhaps a mini-series of some kind. I've never listened to the audio books. Could never find them at the book store.
 
I really liked the idea of an Excelsior/Enterprise-B series. It would be an interesting time frame to base a series, what with the new alliance.

Also I love the Excelsior-Class as a ship, she kinda deserved her own series I thought.

-B
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

Which is a shame, because I would have LOVED a Trek series set in the TOS movie era. It's absolutely my favorite era of Trek in terms of design, and had a lot of potential for storytelling in the time bridging TOS and TNG. But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

Which is a shame, because I would have LOVED a Trek series set in the TOS movie era. It's absolutely my favorite era of Trek in terms of design, and had a lot of potential for storytelling in the time bridging TOS and TNG. But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

This.
 
I really liked the idea of an Excelsior/Enterprise-B series. It would be an interesting time frame to base a series, what with the new alliance.

Also I love the Excelsior-Class as a ship, she kinda deserved her own series I thought.

-B

... because I would have LOVED a Trek series set in the TOS movie era. It's absolutely my favorite era of Trek in terms of design, and had a lot of potential for storytelling in the time bridging TOS and TNG. ....

Absolutely agree.
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

What if STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR cast a new actor as Captain Sulu? What actor would you suggest to play Captain Sulu?
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

What if STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR cast a new actor as Captain Sulu? What actor would you suggest to play Captain Sulu?

What's the point? Why attach yourself to the baggage of a previous character? If your not going to use George Takei, just create a new character.
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

What if STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR cast a new actor as Captain Sulu? What actor would you suggest to play Captain Sulu?

What's the point? Why attach yourself to the baggage of a previous character? If your not going to use George Takei, just create a new character.

Hm...
 
Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

What if STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR cast a new actor as Captain Sulu? What actor would you suggest to play Captain Sulu?

What's the point? Why attach yourself to the baggage of a previous character? If your not going to use George Takei, just create a new character.

JJ Abrams recast Star Trek TOS characters, including Sulu.
 
What if STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR cast a new actor as Captain Sulu? What actor would you suggest to play Captain Sulu?

What's the point? Why attach yourself to the baggage of a previous character? If your not going to use George Takei, just create a new character.

JJ Abrams recast Star Trek TOS characters, including Sulu.

But if this is a Prime universe series... you're essentially stuck with Sulu's twenty plus year career as helmsman of the Enterprise as the characters background. A new character allows you to flesh out that background in a way that serves the story.
 
What's the point? Why attach yourself to the baggage of a previous character? If your not going to use George Takei, just create a new character.

JJ Abrams recast Star Trek TOS characters, including Sulu.

But if this is a Prime universe series... you're essentially stuck with Sulu's twenty plus year career as helmsman of the Enterprise as the characters background. A new character allows you to flesh out that background in a way that serves the story.

I just think same character history in the prime universe set after UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, with Captain Sulu(cast a new actor) of the Excelsior.
 
JJ Abrams recast Star Trek TOS characters, including Sulu.

But if this is a Prime universe series... you're essentially stuck with Sulu's twenty plus year career as helmsman of the Enterprise as the characters background. A new character allows you to flesh out that background in a way that serves the story.

I just think same character history in the prime universe set after UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, with Captain Sulu(cast a new actor) of the Excelsior.

I'm confused here: So if it's set after TUC, then why would you need a new actor to play Sulu? Why wouldn't Takei be able to do it?

(Not that I'm endorsing a Sulu/Exclesior series here. Honestly I think that's a bad idea.)
 
But if this is a Prime universe series... you're essentially stuck with Sulu's twenty plus year career as helmsman of the Enterprise as the characters background. A new character allows you to flesh out that background in a way that serves the story.

I just think same character history in the prime universe set after UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, with Captain Sulu(cast a new actor) of the Excelsior.

I'm confused here: So if it's set after TUC, then why would you need a new actor to play Sulu? Why wouldn't Takei be able to do it?

(Not that I'm endorsing a Sulu/Exclesior series here. Honestly I think that's a bad idea.)

Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

Which is a shame, because I would have LOVED a Trek series set in the TOS movie era. It's absolutely my favorite era of Trek in terms of design, and had a lot of potential for storytelling in the time bridging TOS and TNG. But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

This.

A discussion of recasting the actor. Some think since UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY and VOY Flashback episode were years ago, so they might have to recast Captain Sulu with a younger actor.
 
I just think same character history in the prime universe set after UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, with Captain Sulu(cast a new actor) of the Excelsior.

I'm confused here: So if it's set after TUC, then why would you need a new actor to play Sulu? Why wouldn't Takei be able to do it?

(Not that I'm endorsing a Sulu/Exclesior series here. Honestly I think that's a bad idea.)

Takei's performance in "Flashback" was horribly bad, and his performance in TUC wasn't much better. Frankly he doesn't have the acting chops to be the lead in a series like that. I think the show would have been a disaster.

Which is a shame, because I would have LOVED a Trek series set in the TOS movie era. It's absolutely my favorite era of Trek in terms of design, and had a lot of potential for storytelling in the time bridging TOS and TNG. But I just can't see a Sulu series working out.

This.

A discussion of recasting the actor. Some think since UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY and VOY Flashback episode were years ago, so they might have to recast Captain Sulu with a younger actor.

"Flashback" was filmed 14 years ago. I remember seeing Takei at Shatner's roast just a few years ago, and he looked just fine. Why couldn't you just have the new Excelsior series take place 14 years later? And why am I even arguing about this, when I think it's a bad idea?:lol:
 
"Flashback" was filmed 14 years ago. I remember seeing Takei at Shatner's roast just a few years ago, and he looked just fine. Why couldn't you just have the new Excelsior series take place 14 years later? And why am I even arguing about this, when I think it's a bad idea?:lol:

With or without George Takei, I just think that the 23rd century era U.S.S. Excelsior with Captain Sulu might have been an interesting Star Trek:Excelsior series. The only other Excelsior class starship 23rd century series could have been Captain Harriman of the 1701-B.
 
The only other Excelsior class starship 23rd century series could have been Captain Harriman of the 1701-B.

Why? I don't understand this compulsion to put minor character in the center of the action. Plus, I'm absolutely sure that Starfleet will build more than two Excelsior class starships.

If your set on placing it on the Excelsior, you can always just say that Sulu retired.
 
The only other Excelsior class starship 23rd century series could have been Captain Harriman of the 1701-B.

Why? I don't understand this compulsion to put minor character in the center of the action. Plus, I'm absolutely sure that Starfleet will build more than two Excelsior class starships.

If your set on placing it on the Excelsior, you can always just say that Sulu retired.

That is an idea, maybe STAR TREK:EXCELSIOR would be merely based on an Excelsior class starship( NCC-1701-B, NCC-2000, U.S.S. Lakota or whichever ) and not Captain Sulu.
 
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