How the hell did they get the Narada back?!!

[Jeyl]

Or maybe the writers just figured that 90% of the movie's viewing audience wouldn't really give a shit what Nero was doing, since it had no relevance to the story being told

I doubt that since the scenes in question were written, planned out, designed, budgeted, built, shot and edited to coincide with the script that at this point considered Nero's absence relevant. So with that being said, the writers (who I am giving way too much credit here) did in fact gave a sh** what the audiences thought. By the end of the day, it was JJ Abrams who made the choice to cut the Klingon scenes out.

 

[Jeyl]

Read the Nero comic. Skip the bit with V'Ger.

That was actually my favorite part of the whole comic series. There's no way in heck I'm going to believe that a SIMPLE MINING SHIP Captain can figure out how a substance that has never been used to up to this point in Star Trek work. After all, Nero wasn't the one with the red matter, he wasn't the one who was using it, and for crying out loud, he didn't even know if Spock was there already.

 

[Dukhat]

I doubt that since the scenes in question were written, planned out, designed, budgeted, built, shot and edited to coincide with the script that at this point considered Nero's absence relevant. So with that being said, the writers (who I am giving way too much credit here) did in fact gave a sh** what the audiences thought. By the end of the day, it was JJ Abrams who made the choice to cut the Klingon scenes out.

Does any of this really matter? In the end, the scenes were cut because Abrams felt it interrupted the flow of the film. And it would have. So we end up not knowing what Nero did in the intervening time, and for 90% of us, not caring.

 

[Agenda]

It was an awkward bit in the movie. When I was first watching it, I thought that after attacking the Kelvin, the Narada journeyed back to the future and then reappeared in the past 25 years later. It doesn't make sense, but that's what I thought at first.

 

[bullethead]

When I first saw the movie, I just assumed that they spent 25 years hiding out and repairing all the damage caused by the Kelvin vaporizing a big chunk of the ship.

 

[Aike]

Or maybe the writers just figured that 90% of the movie's viewing audience wouldn't really give a shit what Nero was doing, since it had no relevance to the story being told

I doubt that since the scenes in question were written, planned out, designed, budgeted, built, shot and edited to coincide with the script that at this point considered Nero's absence relevant. So with that being said, the writers (who I am giving way too much credit here) did in fact gave a sh** what the audiences thought. By the end of the day, it was JJ Abrams who made the choice to cut the Klingon scenes out.

They wrote these scenes after they had finished the script because JJ Abrams wanted them. He also cut them out because they confused the test audience.

 

[Pauln6]

Read the Nero comic. Skip the bit with V'Ger.

That was actually my favorite part of the whole comic series. There's no way in heck I'm going to believe that a SIMPLE MINING SHIP Captain can figure out how a substance that has never been used to up to this point in Star Trek work. After all, Nero wasn't the one with the red matter, he wasn't the one who was using it, and for crying out loud, he didn't even know if Spock was there already.

Although we never see Narada cloak, it is entirely possible that she can. Maybe Nero abandoned ship when sensors picked up Klingons approaching to prevent his damaged ship falling into their hands. The ship (much like STVI) could have been programmed to respond to a signal from Nero so all he had to do was get outside the colony's shield, signal his ship, and beam up. He just hadn't planned on it taking so long for him to engineer an escape for his crew.

I didn't buy the comic - what was V'ger's involvement then? Personally, I'd have allowed Nero to gather personnel and resources over the 25 years so that he had a more racially diverse crew, including some less than scrupulous scientists to assist him. It would have made his villains a bit less one-dimensional and given the make-up artists a chance to use their skills. A few escaped prisoners of other races would have been cool here too.

Time dilation is also an easy excuse to explain some loss of time but it sems unlikely that it would take the ship to repair itself.

 

[EJA]

If the facility was at Rura Penthe, it is likely to ensure that Nero was close enough to be interrogated at whim in order to gain deeper access to the Narada's systems.

I suppose it's possible....but it still sounds a bit strange to me.

Then again, last night I had a look at the TNG Nitpicker's Guide, and I realised that it's far from the only crazy thing that's ever happened in the franchise.

 

[JarodRussell]

If the Klingons had Nero, then it's quite reasonable to assume they also had the Narada.

Not in the movie.

Yes, the final movie suggests that they where hiding in space for 25 years. Much better.

 

[Pauln6]

They were relaxing on Wrigley's Pleasure Planet - it was the sixth dose of space herpes that tipped Nero over the edge...

 

[SonicRanger]

I like to think that Nero and pals calculated a very long list of Spock's possible appearance points and times, and they spent 25 years criss-crossing the galaxy to wait at each and every one of those exit points for Spock to appear. Each time he didn't, Nero and pals just became that much more angry and crazy. Think Ahab chasing the whale. We just happened to witness the one exit point at which Spock finally appeared.

 

[EJA]

Nero was already psychotic and out for blood when he arrived in the Abramsverse. If he was free, he would've done considerably more than just skulk around in the sticks doing nothing for two and a half decades. With a ship as powerful as the Narada, he would've been destroying entire fleets and planets (If it was tough enough to wipe the floor with 47 Klingon battlecruisers and rip worlds apart with its drill, I hardly think Nero had much to fear from enemies). But he doesn't...why? If we abandon the Klingon prison theory, the only other idea I can think of is that some alien scooped up the Narada shortly after the destruction of the Kelvin, and deposited it and its crew in a location were it would take them 25 years at maximum warp to get back to known space, but even I have trouble believing that!

P.S: And how else would Nero have gotten the Centauri slugs?

 

[kkozoriz1]

Who's to say he didn't bring the slugs with him? They could be the Romulan equivalent of hamsters. Just because they're called Centauri slugs doesn't mean he had to go to that planet to get them.

 

[Listener4]

There is no explanation. You're not supposed to think about it.

 

[Devon]

There is no explanation. You're not supposed to think about it.

There was no ban on it. Think on.

 

[Saquist]

Any science-fictiony answer can be postulated about this; it's not that difficult. Say, they found the Narada because it had a homing beacon, and once they found it, they could remotely control it to destroy whatever base or yard it was held at before they re-boarded it. Simple enough explanation?

Here's a better one. The writers just couldn't come up with any explanation that would be convincing enough to warrant the screen time. So rather than use what they had, they deleted it and simply had him reappear 25 years later. Does that solve the problem? I guess. Does that mean it works? Not really. Having the villains in a ship that is so massive and so powerful that it can wipe out 47 klingon ships without so much as a scratch on it but they don't do anything for 25 years makes the villains of the show come off as nothing more than literal plot devices that the writers use at their disposal. Nothing develops organically and we're left with questions that go unanswered.

Sure, you can come up with explanations and theories as to why Nero did nothing for 25 years, but that's like trying to figure out why Soran didn't just fly into the gawddang Nexus.

Most fans don't realize that. They think a 25 years of doing nothing in deep space instead of attempting to save Romulus is no big problem for a plot when most people can't sit in one place for 25 minutes let along an entire decade.

The Movie was just ridiculously stupid in areas like the Villain.

How the hell did they get the Narada
back?!!

Read the Nero comic. Skip the bit with V'Ger.

Don't like that? Invent your own story. Nero and chums were a resourceful bunch, and Nero effortlessly whupped three armed Klingons by himself - just because everything wasn't explained in excruciating detail doesn't make it somehow wrong. We see the start of Nero's breakout in the deleted scenes, then we see him back on Narada - thus he got it out of prison and got it back. Does the how really matter?

How did Khan take over the Reliant? We never saw that either.

Hello...augments...superhuman strength and intelligence...
They do give you enough clues for that with out specific focus.

 

[EJA]

I think the easiest solution is that the prison planet Nero was sent to doubled as a research station for captured alien vessels, so the Narada was docked there. It probably used its internal security systems to stop the Klingons probing too deeply into its technology, as depicted in the Nero comic.

 

[Sabataage]

That was one thing that always stuck with me. Why exactly did they have to be inprisoned for twenty years? I would rather find out that they have been lurking about at the edge of known space, raiding whole planets and passing ships until Spock came back through the wormhole. They could be the boogey men of the alpha quadrant, similar to the Borg from TNG, or the Reavers from Firefly. Instead, "they were never seen or heard from again."

 

[CommanderRaytas]

When I first saw the movie, I just assumed that they spent 25 years hiding out and repairing all the damage caused by the Kelvin vaporizing a big chunk of the ship.

That's what I think, too. Funny how people who claim that Nero and his mates just did nothing for 25 years ignore this little factoid. The Narada was almost breaking in half after it collided with the Kelvin. And the Borg thing doesn't count, since it isn't canon.

Repairing that must have cost time. They needed to get to places to get materials etc etc. It isn't hard to come up with an idea.


Also, it didn't matter. Most people didn't care. I didn't care. I still don't.


Oh, and whoever said that Khan had superior intelligence... he didn't. He was retarded.

 

[Brandonv]

I would rather find out that they have been lurking about at the edge of known space, raiding whole planets and passing ships until Spock came back through the wormhole. They could be the boogey men of the alpha quadrant, similar to the Borg from TNG, or the Reavers from Firefly. Instead, "they were never seen or heard from again."

This is actually pretty much what I think the Narada was doing. They probably kept a low profile, which would explain why they where never heard from again. I can imagine remote colonies and deep space traders with tales about some massive ship lurking about, but I am sure few lived to tell the tale.