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Donald Trump For President?

Hopefully as a businessman Trump would understand better than the last few President that you don't endlessly borrow money without prospect of ever paying it off.
His bondholders would tell you that's exactly how he operates. Several times he's leveraged his casinos up to the eyeballs, declared bankruptcy, and eventually reconstituted the company, leaving other people holding the bag. After he built the Trump Taj Mahal, he refused to pay a lot of the subcontractors. People lost their businesses because of him. He's hardly a model of fiscal good sense.
"But, but... he's rich!" :confused:

Really, you won't be able to convince anyone supporting him using facts and his financial history. They'll just see the money and go ga-ga over it.
 
No, I don't think he means that at all, I think he means those things he got passed :rolleyes:

:p
 
Yeah--you've made that claim before.

I'd like to see your sources on that. Not saying the info is false, just saying I'd like to see them. Obama's votes vs. Bush's votes in '04. After all--we heard a LOT about Bush's historical record when that happened. The idea of Obama's breaking that record...well, I'd yet to hear about it on the news when you first made that claim....
The Federal Election Commission.
2008 Election Results
2004 Election Results

So, basic logic would tell you that. Voter turnout was higher in 2008 and Obama got a higher percentage of the vote.

Good boy.

For proving you wrong? Yes he is.

It is hard to present a credible case with falsehoods. Even when you do make a good point or bring up something interesting for discussion, you are going to have a hard time finding traction when people dismiss you based on past falsehoods.
 
As for Barry...as it turns out, what with the debacles over the stimulus and health care...he didn't have such a mandate...after all.
Debacle? The debacle of doing exactly what he wanted to do?
As opposed to doing exactly what the American people wanted him to do?

This whole "mandate" thing will be settled in just a few weeks.

If the American people elect politicians who support the President's legislation then there was a public mandate.

If the American people elect politicians who will remove, defund or gut the President's legislation then there wasn't a public mandate to start with.

:):):)
 
Oh, stupid me, I thought presidential elections are only every four years and that in congressional elections the individual candidates are elected on their own merit. But I'm just a furriner.
 
As for Barry...as it turns out, what with the debacles over the stimulus and health care...he didn't have such a mandate...after all.
Debacle? The debacle of doing exactly what he wanted to do?
As opposed to doing exactly what the American people wanted him to do?

This whole "mandate" thing will be settled in just a few weeks.

If the American people elect politicians who support the President's legislation then there was a public mandate.

If the American people elect politicians who will remove, defund or gut the President's legislation then there wasn't a public mandate to start with.

:):):)

[Morbo]ELECTIONS DON'T WORK THAT WAY![/Morbo]

I could highlight your ignorance of the American electoral process anyways, which must be much different from your native land of Mexico. I high doubt that an American would forget that Presidential elections are only every four years.

Instead, I will question how the GOP will overturn law without a 2/3rds majority in both houses. They might be poised to make big gains, but only a mental leprechaun would even consider that sort of political parting of the seas.
 
Oh, stupid me, I thought presidential elections are only every four years and that in congressional elections the individual candidates are elected on their own merit. But I'm just a furriner.
Oh now Roger Wilco, don't be a big silly. Of course all mid term election are a referendums on the President of the United States job performance. Just as the 2012 election will be the President's big job review, that where the President will find out if his employers are going to be "letting him go."

I high doubt that an American would forget that Presidential elections are only every four years.
Now when did anybody even briefly mention a Presidential election? You may be interested to know that Congress makes (and un-makes) laws ... not the Executive Branch.

Instead, I will question how the GOP will overturn law without a 2/3rds majority in both houses.
But why go through all the fuss and bother of overturning a law when congress can simply defund it? It really would be just so much easier. And a wonderful cost saving measure too. If we save enough money, perhaps there can be another tax cut?

In terms of actual overturning it, you honestly think that two Independents and thirteen or fourteen Democrats in the Senate wouldn't see the way the winds are blowing and vote (maybe in the middle of the night) to overturn certain legislation? Maybe with a nice juicy highway bill attached to it. Getting a bunch of Dems in the House might be just as easy.

And if they can get two-thirds of Congress, guess what, that mean they can over-ride a Presidential veto too ... won't that be fun?

P.S. I'm Brazilian, not Mexican.

:):):).:):):).:):):).:):):).:):):)
 
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