NBC still clueless what was wrong with Heroes
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Come on, CSI did an episode where all they did was look down at people who enjoy making robots! That's pretty much the entire purpose of Catherine's character.
Though they let themselves down when they entered an 'edgy' goth nightclub where they were playing Marilyn Manson's This is the New Shit, wait I mean This is the New Issssshhh.
Come on, CSI did an episode where all they did was look down at people who enjoy making robots! That's pretty much the entire purpose of Catherine's character.
Though they let themselves down when they entered an 'edgy' goth nightclub where they were playing Marilyn Manson's This is the New Shit, wait I mean This is the New Issssshhh.
I can't speak to CSI, since I've only seen one or two episodes of original (and none of the spinoffs.) I saw the furry episode, though.
^CSI is terrible in that respect. The much vaunted Lady Heather character being a case in point.
The other issue is that, almost invariably, one of the investigators will demonstrate some previously unmentioned interest that helps their case along which will never be mentioned again afterwards.
The other issue is that, almost invariably, one of the investigators will demonstrate some previously unmentioned interest that helps their case along which will never be mentioned again afterwards.
Sci-fi fans are more prone to use the internet and illegally download or watch on Hulu. Just go look at some download sites. Lost, Battlestar Galactica, and other genre shows were consistently at the top.
Then that means the Nielsens are correctly measuring the drop in TV viewing of those genres because they're being downloaded elsewhere.
But Sci-fi fans are much more likely to buy dvds of their favorite shows like LOST and BSG, compared to cop shows like CSI.
With LOST and BSG now finished, I've pretty much given up hope of seeing any decent Sci-Fi on tv. I think the the best years of Sci-Fi on television are now behind us.
I just don't think that one person accurately represents 10,000 people or whatever the number is.
Don't give up hope. Everything is cyclical.
Statistical analysis may not be an exact science but it is reliable within a few percentage points--certainly enough to decide whether a show is profitable.
Which also decreases Nielsens ratings. I continually see people online saying "I'm not going to watch X show, I'll just wait for the DVD."
Non-TV-viewing revenues can be tracked just like Nielsens (by methods that are much more direct and therefore can't be attacked like the Nielsens always are) and there have been studies published that tell us % of revenues of shows generally can be attributed to non-TV viewing and the answer is: not much. Download revenues, whether purchase or ad supported, are a tiny fraction compared with traditional Nielsen-tracked revenues.
Also, keep in mind that downloads and DVD revenues go to the studio, not the network, and so the network isn't going to keep a show on the air just to profit the studio. Studios might lower the fee they charge networks just so they can keep a show in production, but that means they'd have to be making a hefty amount off non-TV viewing revenue streams to compensate.
Someday there may be viable revenue models for supporting shows other than ads and cable subscriptions, but that day seems to be a long ways off.
I thought that after DS9 went off the air.
They really needed to focus more on Claire's trust issues with her father, and her desire to live a normal life.
This story cracked me the hell up!Apparently the problems with Heroes was 1) the characters had superpowers (confusing!) and 2) the story had plot arcs (even more confusing!)
Yes that's right, the problem with Heroes was that the audience wasn't smart enough to follow along. It had nothing to do with the writing being ridiculously bad. The audience just couldn't keep track of all those rules for the "magic powers"; it had nothing to do with the rules changing from episode to episode and the audience noticing because the audience was more on the ball than the writers were.
Solution? Do a procedural cop show about a guy who dresses weird. Ta dah, The Cape!
I won't be watching, it sounds like a bore. It might work, but if it does, it won't have anything to do with NBC learning what was wrong with Heroes because they obviously still do not know.
My hunch is that ABC is more on the right track with No Ordinary Family. Start with characters discovering superpowers and then move the story along from there; don't get stuck in a rut trying to tell S1 in S2, S3, etc. Present an arc, but keep it simple at first - focused on one family - and gradually work in the complexity over time, so that it's manageable and the writers don't get tangled up trying to keep seven or eight characters' plotlines going at once.
But whatever you do, don't bore us all to tears with a procedural. If I want to watch a cop show, there's already two dozen to choose from. A cop in a cape is still a cop.
Then again, this is from the network that had the genius to cancel Kings...
Honestly Kings bored the spit out of me. But at least it was different.
Who wouldn't watch her mow her lawn?
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