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Could they pull off a Titan series?

Well, if you want a Star Trek series made to cater to the audience that Golden Girls was made for, you enjoy that - I'd kind of like then to stick to the 18-49 demographic, thanks. Also, you might want to try using a contemporary example in the same action/adventure category that Trek is in to prove your point, not a 20 year old sitcom.
 
Well, if you want a Star Trek series made to cater to the audience that Golden Girls was made for, you enjoy that - I'd kind of like then to stick to the 18-49 demographic, thanks. Also, you might want to try using a contemporary example in the same action/adventure category that Trek is in to prove your point, not a 20 year old sitcom.

I was joking not serious maybe you should change your name to Jellico.
 
I thought you might ask - I'm using the magic of common sense myself.

More seriously, nuTrek has had wild success with a cast of young, sexy people in a fun, fast paced action flick. Why would anyone with any business sense then invest money in a follow up series with a cast with 2 of the lead roles being people in their 50s and a lot of the rest of the cast being funky aliens and the premise of the show reverting to the old Trek exploration premises?
 
I thought you might ask - I'm using the magic of common sense myself.

More seriously, nuTrek has had wild success with a cast of young, sexy people in a fun, fast paced action flick. Why would anyone with any business sense then invest money in a follow up series with a cast with 2 of the lead roles being people in their 50s and a lot of the rest of the cast being funky aliens and the premise of the show reverting to the old Trek exploration premises?

Again this has nothing to do with it. Everything else you say about the same thing being done over again is valid and I agree with. I just disagree with the age point.
 
And I'm just saying that no network is going to follow up nuTrek with the adventures of Ma and Pa Riker. I mean, who else would be a main character in Titan if you're going off the novels? Who would provide the youth and sex appeal?
 
And I'm just saying that no network is going to follow up nuTrek with the adventures of Ma and Pa Riker. I mean, who else would be a main character in Titan if you're going off the novels? Who would provide the youth and sex appeal?

They could always come up with a character. LIke we said the series wouldn't work most likley unless the characters were reworked a little.
 
Also, the trend in Trek now seems to be revitalization/reinvigoration. Frankly, the series needs it. It's over 40 years old and it seemed like it was down for the count. How does casting old people as leads convey that image of revitalization that they're clearly working on? More importantly, why would they go backwards to shows that have already had their run and draw their cast from there? If they do that, it makes their series seem like there's no evolution or progression. They're just stuck using the same characters over and over and over...
 
i would love to say yes but NO it wouldnt work. I dont think that there will be another Star Trek ship series, i heard a bird tell me the there could be a series about life at the Starfleet accadamy. but dont shoot me if im wrong;).
 
Also, the trend in Trek now seems to be revitalization/reinvigoration. Frankly, the series needs it. It's over 40 years old and it seemed like it was down for the count. How does casting old people as leads convey that image of revitalization that they're clearly working on? More importantly, why would they go backwards to shows that have already had their run and draw their cast from there? If they do that, it makes their series seem like there's no evolution or progression. They're just stuck using the same characters over and over and over...

Battle Star Galactica reivented itself with an older man as one of the leads.
 
Frakes yes. Riker no. Riker was in his late 20s when TNG started.

More like mid-30s! (TNG premiered in 1987 and Frakes was born in 1952.) Riker's age could be got around without recasting by making an animated series. A properly done 3D animation in the SW: Clone Wars style would IMO have some chance of success. Frakes could still be cast as the voice of Riker, and Sirtis could be Troi. Both have said they'd be willing to revisit their Trek roles. Additionally, making an animated rather than a live action series would avoid the expense of a number of CGI characters and alien makeup.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/2335
That makes Riker under 30 during Season One.

And from I've seen in the recent pictures, Frakes looks great. He could pass as a seasoned starship captain. Yes, he could stand to lose some weight. But so did Kirk and Scotty during the TOS movies.
 
BSG was a reimagining, not a reinvigoration. There's a huge difference and if you can't or won't understand what that difference is, then there's just no point in arguing this with you any more.
 
BSG was a reimagining, not a reinvigoration. There's a huge difference and if you can't or won't understand what that difference is, then there's just no point in arguing this with you any more.

I see know difference between the JJ film and the new BS? They both were the same basic story with more action and edge.
 
It's interesting Bishop76 how you single out DS9 earlier in this thread as being a different formula from Berman Trek and how it was successful.

That just seems like wishful thinking to me. For one DS9 was as much part of Berman Trek as TNG or Voyager. He was the boss of that show and he approved of everthing that happened on it. Secondly, as much as it paines me, DS9 was not a ratings success. It did better than Voyager but no where near as good as people hoped it would. It's a miracle it got seven seasons.

As to the bigger issue of this thread, I sadly agree, no network will ever revive 24th century Star Trek. Sexyness and action seem to be the favourites of the day. Why TPTB are so desperate for Star Trek to be main stream I don't know. It never had that intention originally and it did very well for very long without it but rather flurished on serious fan dedication. Ah well, who knows maybe the networks (and people) will get more mature again as time goes on.
 
i would love to say yes but NO it wouldnt work. I dont think that there will be another Star Trek ship series, i heard a bird tell me the there could be a series about life at the Starfleet accadamy. but dont shoot me if im wrong;).

People have been saying that since 1997.

Let me be the first to call it "Smallville Trek" should it happen :lol:.
 
I'm all in favor of a rebooted Titan. Heck Fracas could be the Admiral. Sertis could be a Klingon.
 
That just seems like wishful thinking to me. For one DS9 was as much part of Berman Trek as TNG or Voyager. He was the boss of that show and he approved of everthing that happened on it.

That is true. However, each of those shows had other producers/writers/etc attached to them as well. I just think that the Behr/Moore influence on DS9 set it apart from the others.

Sure the other two had promising premises. VOY was supposed to be about two separate crews struggling to live together while struggling to get home. It didn't go that way and just ended up being TNG in the Delta quadrant. ENT was supposed to be a show where the characters were supposed to rely less on technology as they had so much in the previous installations and had to get by on their smarts rather than using the tech as a crutch. Well, by the end of the first episode they had started using the transporter and phasers with stun settings and it had just become TNG in the 22nd century. My only point here is that DS9 was the only Berman era show that managed to keep its premise relatively intact, though it was touch and go a few times after they got the Defiant.

Secondly, as much as it paines me, DS9 was not a ratings success. It did better than Voyager but no where near as good as people hoped it would. It's a miracle it got seven seasons.

I think I should point out here that I have no argument with this fact. I just didn't include it because I was just mentioning the shows that had run in the last decade. DS9 did have pretty rough ratings as well.

As to the bigger issue of this thread, I sadly agree, no network will ever revive 24th century Star Trek. Sexyness and action seem to be the favourites of the day. Why TPTB are so desperate for Star Trek to be main stream I don't know.
It's a simple enough reason. Money. That's pretty much all there is to it.
 
i would love to say yes but NO it wouldnt work. I dont think that there will be another Star Trek ship series, i heard a bird tell me the there could be a series about life at the Starfleet accadamy. but dont shoot me if im wrong;).

People have been saying that since 1997.

Let me be the first to call it "Smallville Trek" should it happen :lol:.

lol - hell, I've been hearing that since 1990...
 
i would love to say yes but NO it wouldnt work. I dont think that there will be another Star Trek ship series, i heard a bird tell me the there could be a series about life at the Starfleet accadamy. but dont shoot me if im wrong;).

People have been saying that since 1997.

Let me be the first to call it "Smallville Trek" should it happen :lol:.

lol - hell, I've been hearing that since 1990...

Didin't the studio want TNG to be about cadets?
 
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