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X-MEN: FIRST CLASS (Casting, Rumors, Pics till release)

I don't want to see a reboot either. I really want to see the Marauders Massacre where Angel, Kitty, Nightcrawler, and Colossus were totally screwed (so tehy can bring in Havok, Dazzler, and British Psylocke to make up the numbers) followed by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in X5 and then wrap the franchise up with Cable returning from the future to stop the Sentinels and rescue his parents from the clutches of Mr Sinister. Six movies telling most of the great X-stories.

If they want to reboot, do an Age of Apocalypse movie.
 
I have a feeling that if "X-Men:First Class" doesn't do very well for whatever reason we could get a total reboot of the franchise and I'd be so up for an AOA trilogy. I'd not even bother doing the back story with Legion killing Xavier in the first film but jump right into that world and go from there. Maybe even calling the first film "X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Alpha" as a nod to the first issue. Possibly my all time favorite X-Men story line followed by The Dark Phoenix story.
 
Actually I think "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" was more of a cluster fuck for the franchise than "X-Men: The Last Stand" is and that is saying a lot since I despise the later. Just so many things wrong in X-Men Origins. I haven't seen either of them since I saw them and was disappointed by both in the theaters.

Yeah, the Wolverine film was fucking awful. A terrible movie with a mess of a "story" and random cameos, it was a disaster. I despise Movie Wolverine and the less said about that, the better.

My favorite X-team was Wolverine, Storm, Colussues, Nightcrawler, and Kitty Pyrde. Wish they would stick to that team.

As for villains, would love to see the Hellfire Club. We need more than just Magneto.

I'd be happy if they stuck with the original five X-Men but I doubt they'll do that.
 
Oh man I would definitely love the Hellfire Club as villains. Would totally work if they have it where they were after Jean Grey at an early age. Send Emma Frost to infiltrate the X-Men. Although she wold be young too. I wonder who could play Sebastian Shaw or Selene, ooh maybe Catherine Zeta Jones.
 
Start fresh. X3 became such a huge clusterfuck for the franchise.
There's literally no need to start the franchise again. There are so many mutants, and so many X-Men that you could just keep going with no problem. There isn't really a status quo. So Cyclops is dead. So what? What's the point of even making these movies in the first place if you're too afraid to roll with it, instead rebooting whenever anything goes slightly wrong?

In today's climate, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan would've been a reboot.

Fucking reboots.
 
Start fresh. X3 became such a huge clusterfuck for the franchise.
There's literally no need to start the franchise again. There are so many mutants, and so many X-Men that you could just keep going with no problem. There isn't really a status quo. So Cyclops is dead. So what? What's the point of even making these movies in the first place if you're too afraid to roll with it, instead rebooting whenever anything goes slightly wrong?

In today's climate, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan would've been a reboot.

Fucking reboots.

Hmm yes. You've mentioned your disdain for reboots, already. I get it.


But if this is a reboot, which i hope they do
If this is a reboot, I'm never watching movies ever again.

The only 'rebooting' in the X-Men franchise that needs to happen is just to give us X-Men 4 with a few new mutants and a cool villain and if they're hellbent on giving is the totally unnecessary back story to Xavier and Magneto, do it in flash backs.

The only superhero franchise in need of a reboot is the Fantastic Four, but even that can get by by just recasting.

And you know what? I really hope this does turn out to be a reboot, so you NEVER watch movies EVER again! So good day! :lol:
 
In today's climate, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan would've been a reboot.

Fucking reboots.

Well, arguably, it WAS a reboot.

The Enterprise looked different from either TMP or TOS. The costumes were also different from both. Having reconciled his human and Vulcan sides in TMP, Spock was back to the conflicted half-breed of TOS. The events of TMP were never mentioned (whereas almost every subsequent movie with the original crew made some reference to the previous one, apart from TUC's understandable ignoring of TFF). TMP was made 10 years after the series ended but was supposed to be set a year or two after. Whereas TWOK clearly allowed for the passage of 'real time', with Kirk's 50th birthday and the crew pondering their mortality.
 
^How was TWOK's Spock "back to the conflicted half-breed of TOS"? On the contrary, Spock's portrayal in TWOK was a logical progression from his epiphany in TMP -- no longer conflicted, but serene, secure, not afraid to express his feelings of friendship quite openly.


Anyway, a recasting of Beast is understandable, but I consider it tragic that Kelsey Grammer won't get to play the role more than once. I still consider George Buza's Beast from the '90s animated series to be the definitive interpretation of the character, but aside from him, Grammer was the best casting choice imaginable.
 
^ It's admittedly been a long time since I viewed both movies in close proximity but I always got the impression in TWOK that Spock was more like how he was in the original series and that the resolution he'd found at the end of TMP was being ignored.

Certainly, it wasn't until the end of TVH that he seemed again to reconcile his human and Vulcan halves but that could be down to, well, dying and being reborn in the interim. Which I'd have to admit would probably jumble anyone's psyche ...
 
^I've always thought that the Spock of TWOK was as serene and self-content as we've ever seen him. I don't think the TOS Spock would've indulged in such an emotional human custom as giving birthday presents, or said "I have been and always shall be your friend" (twice!), or casually used an illogical human idiom like "Sauce for the goose." TWOK's Spock is a Spock who's no longer afraid of his "human side."
 
Indeed. I believe the Spock of TWOK is completely comfortable with himself and has finally found a balance between his conflicting halves.
 
I would agree that Spock by the time TWOK takes place is very comfortable with his conflict with maybe one exception being his post-death where he's still trying to figure himself out...when we see Spock again in The Final Frontier he seems like his old self again.
 
In all honesty I agree with you there are way too many remakes & reboots these days, but sometimes it can be a good thing. It's all relatively subjective.

All I'm hoping for, sort of a wishlist, are adventures of the xmen that doesn't necessarily have to be canon to what's already been established in the other films. If it is, i'm fine with that too just so long it makes sense. This being a prequel and all to those films there are limitations to abide by but there doesn't have to be with a slight reboot. As I said before in countless other Xmen FC threads and probably even this one I'm hoping Singer and Vaughn can restart fresh with a kick ass (pun intended) new X-trilogy starting with this. That is all. In about a year we shall see. Just like you Shazam and everybody else, just voicing my opinion or in this case suggesting a thought to the TrekBBS community that FOX will never read.
 
^I've always thought that the Spock of TWOK was as serene and self-content as we've ever seen him. I don't think the TOS Spock would've indulged in such an emotional human custom as giving birthday presents, or said "I have been and always shall be your friend" (twice!), or casually used an illogical human idiom like "Sauce for the goose." TWOK's Spock is a Spock who's no longer afraid of his "human side."

True. And as one who's always known to pick his battles, I'm not going to debate ST:TMP v ST:TWOK with someone who's written one of the best books set between them. ;)

Shazam! said:
Fucking reboots.

Hmm yes. You've mentioned your disdain for reboots, already. I get it.
It needs saying again and again and again until enough of us start saying it and Hollywood stops doing it.

In today's climate, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan would've been a reboot.

Well, arguably, it WAS a reboot
Factually, it wasn't.

I know it wasn't a reboot in terms of how we now view them (eg Batman Begins following Batman & Robin or Casino Royale following Die Another Day) and I certainly like to think of all of ST existing in one consistent timeline. But in terms of the look, the tone, the pacing and the feel of the series, there was certainly an effort to make it very dissimilar to TMP.
 
I'm pretty sure that there have been statements made that this film takes place in the same continuity as the previous four X-Men films and it isn't a reboot. Perhaps the casting might make it seem like a reboot but that's because this is another prequel depicting the origin and creation of the Xavier Institute for Gifted Youngsters and the X-Men and probably the Brotherhood of Mutants through the core story of the friendship of Xavier and Magneto. Indeed that friendship is the only reason that Bryan Singer became interested in returning to the franchise and he would frame the "First Class" part around that. Perhaps this concept combined with the casting is why so many fans are wondering if this is a reboot or it's just possible I'm rambling about nothing.
 
No, no. I understand It most likely is a prequel that is canon to W:XO thru X3. Just me being a "fanboy," wanting a fresh take. That is all. Which that term in itself has somehow become derogitory. Let's face it, we're all "fanboys" in some form or another. How it became and is used as supposed insult is another story altogether.

But yeah. New director. New cast. New story set in a previous time. Might as well right? But oh well.

Like if this was my story with a slight reboot (and forgive me if I'm rambling), yet still adhering to the premise we've been given so far, I would still set this first film about the fallout of Charles and Erik with the end result still continuing their rivalry through out this whole series, like it has been, but at the end of the first film, I would also introduce a new threat on top of Magneto and The Brotherhood, like say The Hellfire Club and their obsession in acquiring the Phoenix Force (similar to what we saw in Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon.) That would be the premise for the 2nd movie. This somewhat already being a predominantly european cast, could even set some of the movie in the UK as well. Bring in characters for example like Sebastian Shaw, Selene, Stepford Cuckoos, Black Tom Cassidy, Banshee, some members of Excalibur, like Brian and Betsy Braddock, Meggan, etc. Again, characters that never really see the light of day in the X films (understandably so, since there's only been 4 of them.)

I'd essentially have Mr. Sinister be the main villain for the third movie as he has been the one pulling the strings orchestrating everything behind the scenes regarding the fallout of Charles and Erik with their takes on mutants and humans, the power struggle over the Phoenix Force, etc. All this without the character of Wolverine. But yeah. I don't know. It needs a lot more fleshing out, but you guys catch my drift right? Again, apologize if this post sounds like incoherent drivel.
 
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