Agreed. Too bad it wasn't done here.
And I wouldn't worry about your behaviour. You haven't gone anywhere near crossing the line.
It's official: Thank God for Remastered!
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And I wouldn't worry about your behaviour. You haven't gone anywhere near crossing the line.
You can put up example after example until the internets explode, but it won't change what people like or don't like. Actually, this thread has been boiled down to the same four or five of us saying what we prefer then having to defend or justify it.
Nobody's opinion is going to be changed no matter what anyone says. Tell ya what: Warped, if you ever come by, we'll watch Trek Old School. Chrisisall and RAMA, I'll pop on the TOS-R versions for ya. Long as it's Shatner and Nimoy, I'm there.
I'll bring the Romulan Ale!!!!!
*hic*
First rate cgi is something that is more likely found in feature films and sometimes in television. But for the most part it's not in TOS-R. You can bang your head on the desk as much as you'd like, but if it looks fake and obvious to me then there it is and nothing anyone says will change that.
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Fair enough.
First rate cgi takes a lot of time and time is money. CBS didn't have that to give.
First rate opticals take a lot of time and time is money. NBC didn't have that to give back in the day.
The more things change, the more they stay the same....
Quick question:
Does anyone know how to disable the damned "ANGLE" indicator on the things? It's annoyed me so much that I can't even watch them anymore as every time there's an effects shot, I get "reminded" that I can see the original effect by pressing the ANGLE button on the remote. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ORIGINAL -- I want to see the clean thing WITHOUT CRAP ON THE SCREEN telling me I have a bloody choice. '
ARGH!!!!
Tony
Does anyone know how to disable the damned "ANGLE" indicator on the things? It's annoyed me so much that I can't even watch them anymore as every time there's an effects shot, I get "reminded" that I can see the original effect by pressing the ANGLE button on the remote. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ORIGINAL -- I want to see the clean thing WITHOUT CRAP ON THE SCREEN telling me I have a bloody choice. '
ARGH!!!!
Tony
I don't think so. It's your player doing that. My BD player does that, too, which, while annoying, doesn't too adversely affect my viewing pleasure. When I play the same discs on my dad's BD player, the angle icon doesn't show up at all.
Char Aznable
Lieutenant Commander
Just a few pages up, I posted about my own experiences showing TOS remastered to noobs to the franchise. Pretty much exclusively, they all had no clue that they were watching a show with updated fx, so they weren't distracted in any way. So, again, the naysayers arguments are destroyed.
Doesn't mean anything. Just because a lot of people are clueless and ignorant of history doesn't make them right.
Char Aznable
Lieutenant Commander
I get the point. But you're equating supposed majority opinion with automatically being correct. That's not how it works. A lot of people can think something is right and they can still eventually all be proven wrong.
A lot of people made bad financial decisions to make more money and it seemed okay because so many other people were doing it, but it turns out they were all wrong to do it. A lot of people supported Bush's irrational war in Iraq and thinking they were right because they chose to believe the lies and propaganda, but it didn't take long at all to show they were all wrong.
I have the same issue on my downstairs player, a Magnavox. But the discs play without the "Angle" indicator on my Playstation 3.
Good thing I don't spend much time downstairs.
Char Aznable
Lieutenant Commander
Frankly, I'd take the opinions of several unbiased parties, who are honest in their feelings about what they watch, over yours who is most certainly as biased as can be (you've been a fan since it first aired I assume).
To further expand on my point since it wasn't clear apparantly; You're point was (primarily) that the 60's footage clashes with the new fx and feels like two different productions and that it is clear as day how different they are. However, I've shown the show to people who haven't really watched TOS or any Star Trek at all outside of a few of the movies and XI. None of them even realized the TOS-R effects were new until they were told. So, obviously, the new CGI doesn't clash nor are they as distracting as you make them seem. I can understand you're feelings on the matter, but you're obviously going to be biased after seeing the episodes so many times. People who haven't seen TOS being able to get into the series and follow it easily new production values or no, proves you wrong whether you want to abmit it or not. The true test of anything comes from an unbiased neutral party, especially since one of the primary goals of this project was to get people into TOS who normally wouldn't have been interested.
You can keep on going, "lol no u," all you want, but that won't change anything.
Speaking as a film maker myself, my trained eye can see a difference between the new CGI & 60's 35mm film. It also helps that I've memorized every FRAME of the original episodes throughout the years.
But yeah, most peeps wouldn't know it was not all done at the same time or that FX had been changed who were not hard core fans. For the most part, it's pretty seamless.
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