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Hrm. I'm excited for Rough Beasts of Empire (I'm excited for all of them, really), but I'm not a fan of using time-skips to cover huge ground-shaking events. It strikes me as a "show, don't tell" violation.

"Hey, let us tell you about this really cool/dramatic/significant event that happened, but that we can't actually show you in real-time."

(And yes, future works may go back and fill in the missing "seasons," but by then we'll already know most of what's going to happen.)
 
I think it's the other way around. They didn't use a time-jump to cover huge events; editorially, the time jump was mandated, to get DS9 up to speed with everything else. They just thought that, in 5 years, some pretty huge things would've happened, so there have been big changes. I think it'd be more unrealistic if everything had stayed the same.

And honestly, having recently read Serpents Among The Ruins, there won't be any need to go back and fill in the missing time. In that book, DRG3 covered a period of time that was at most a couple weeks, but gave such a tremendous sense of the last 20 years that I think any novels actually taking place in that time would be redundant. He was exactly the right author to get for this.
 
I'm actually on the other side of that debate, I've almost allways enjoyed it when shows do a time jump. I find that it makes things alot more interesting since we don't know how things have changed, or where the characters will be now. As jumping back and showing everything, as long as they provide decent explanations in the story, I'm happy. Yeah, I realize this might contradict what I've said in the past, but I realized that we've gotten plenty of stories that did time jumps and were still able to provide enough background in the story that jumping back was unnecissary. I also realized how much I've liked the stories like Lost and nBSG who did do big time jumps like this. Granted they did do flashbacks, but they were also TV shows and with TV you can't fit in all the background you can in books.
EDIT: This was a response to Cybersnark, not Thrawn.
 
JD said:
I'm actually on the other side of that debate, I've almost allways enjoyed it when shows do a time jump. I find that it makes things alot more interesting since we don't know how things have changed, or where the characters will be now. As jumping back and showing everything, as long as they provide decent explanations in the story, I'm happy. Yeah, I realize this might contradict what I've said in the past, but I realized that we've gotten plenty of stories that did time jumps and were still able to provide enough background in the story that jumping back was unnecissary. I also realized how much I've liked the stories like Lost and nBSG who did do big time jumps like this. Granted they did do flashbacks, but they were also TV shows and with TV you can't fit in all the background you can in books.
EDIT: This was a response to Cybersnark, not Thrawn.
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Did you enjoy SeaQuest DSV's time jump?
 
^ Not really the same thing, as the "time jump" was a result of the seaQuest traveling to and from another world, even though it was only a few days (at most) for them. The time jump here is essentially, "It's five years later. Everybody's five years older, let's rejoin them, lives already in progress." :)
 
Dayton Ward said:
^ Not really the same thing, as the "time jump" was a result of the seaQuest traveling to and from another world, even though it was only a few days (at most) for them. The time jump here is essentially, "It's five years later. Everybody's five years older, let's rejoin them, lives already in progress." :)
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In defence of using seaQuest DSV as an example, the beginning of the second season (as opposed to the third) has the sort of time jump you're talking about--two years have gone by, allowing for the construction of a new ship and a plethora of crew (read: cast) changes.
 
I'm very worried this is going to Lead to Kai Kira were read about in ST Online. Are they going to kill Elias? will Sisko command DS9 and the Defiant again? That only leaves Bashir and NOg left on the station. DRG III has his work cut out for him.
 
Garm Bel Iblis said:
I'm very worried this is going to Lead to Kai Kira were read about in ST Online.
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Why? There are already far too many contradictions between the novel continuity and the STO continuity, especially where DS9 is concerned. There's no possibility of the novel continuity connecting up with STO.
 
TheAlmanac said:
Dayton Ward said:
^ Not really the same thing, as the "time jump" was a result of the seaQuest traveling to and from another world, even though it was only a few days (at most) for them. The time jump here is essentially, "It's five years later. Everybody's five years older, let's rejoin them, lives already in progress." :)
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In defence of using seaQuest DSV as an example, the beginning of the second season (as opposed to the third) has the sort of time jump you're talking about--two years have gone by, allowing for the construction of a new ship and a plethora of crew (read: cast) changes.
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True enough, but were people really that irritated that the "gap" was never addressed, or were they too busy groaning in protest at how sucky the 2nd season ended up being? :)
 
^ Yeah. :lol: indeed. There was some pretty great stuff in The Needs Of The Many, but that wasn't part of it.
 
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