Lost 6x08: "Recon"

[Mr Awe]

Average. This is the first average that I've given in a long time. I sort of feel bad about that because I'm sure it is still better than most television. However, while still entertaining, it did not really stand out in any significant way.

The most enjoyable part was probably just watching Sawyer working his con man magic. He's got that down pat!

Mr Awe

 

[Luckyflux]

Average Episode.


One thing I caught was when Sawyer said that at one point he had a choice to be either a criminal or a cop, and he chose to be a cop. I am wondering if that is the distinction between the flash sideways. In the main reality, the losties chose one path. In the alternate reality, they are following the opposite path.

What was up with Sayid? He was zombie Sayid. At one point he confessed that he wasn't alright. Does Sayid have "the sickness" that Danielle talked about? Remember the dark territory? I hope Richard mentions it if he is shown at the Black Rock again.
It seems to be somekind of sickness, but did Danielle crew really go through the whole dying and resurrecting thing to get sick? Did Danielle ever know about Jacob?

Isn't Alex the daughter of Ben and Danielle? Does that mean that in the alternate timeline Ben and Danielle are together? Because Alex looks the same?

 

[Mr Awe]

- What tipped Sawyer off that Zoe was conning him?

Her story was full of holes. I mean, what she heard her fellow passengers scream and found them dead? She doesn't know why, she acts scared, yet she's going to hang around pull their bodies together like that by herself? Doesn't make sense. She'd stay in hiding.

She was also repeatedly asking Sawyer about how many people he was with and whether they had guns. That's suspicious by itself. But, if she was that scared, again she wouldn't have hung around by herself, rearranging dead bodies in the open like that!

Mr Awe

 

[RoJoHen]

Whats in the double locked door? My theory is that it's Eloise Hawking, thats how Widmore made it back to the island.

My brother and I thought it was Desmond. We've got to get him back on to the Island somehow!

 

[trekkiebaggio]

^I had the same thought.

Average Episode.


Isn't Alex the daughter of Ben and Danielle? Does that mean that in the alternate timeline Ben and Danielle are together? Because Alex looks the same?

Alex is Danielle's and Robert's son. Ben took her from Danielle and raised her as his own.

 

[gh4chiefs]

If you have a problem with coincidences where characters run into each other, you're watching the wrong show.

Yeah I already knew that. But at least in the other flash whatevers, they made some of kind of sense that they could happen.

Now they're just throwing shit together for the factor. Miles and Sawyer together as cops?

 

[RoJoHen]

Now they're just throwing shit together for the factor. Miles and Sawyer together as cops?

It does seem that way, yeah. That's one of the reasons these flashes bother me. There is no rhyme or reason to them (as far as I can tell so far). All the other crazy flashes at least had a context.

 

[Plomeek Broth]

Above average.

Sawyer/Miles are starring in new Lethal Weapon retcon/reboot.

Charlotte cleans up well.

Widmore has unleashed his evil Geek Squad on the Losties led by Tina Fey and the fat boy from Kate and Allie. Smokey look out!

Sawyer knows how to drive a submarine.

Sayid "Wot Hoppened?" Jarreh doesn't care about helping Kate and she doesn't ask him why he watched Wighead Claire attack her.

Claire commanded the angry squirrel on her head to kill dumb Kate.

 

[Ryan8bit]

If you have a problem with coincidences where characters run into each other, you're watching the wrong show.

Yeah I already knew that. But at least in the other flash whatevers, they made some of kind of sense that they could happen.

Now they're just throwing shit together for the factor. Miles and Sawyer together as cops?

The way I see it is that the sideways universe is how everything plays out without the interference of Jacob. But the timeline we started with is the interference of Jacob. Why is that relevant? Possibly because Jacob manipulated things in such a way that the same people's lives would be connected in order to prove some sort of point. So I don't feel that any of it is coincidence in the common sense that people define the word, but that it is an arranged fate. What the actual purpose of it is, I don't know.

 

[Mr Light]

There's probably a nuke in the locked room. I do fully expect Des to be on the sub though, he's still a regular and has to come back to the Island somehow! Widmore will detonate the nuke in the volcano to destroy it once and for all when he gets spited or refused or something.

 

[RoJoHen]

I've read that there's a volcano on the island, but has it ever actually been mentioned on screen?

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Yeah, it was mentioned by the Dharma school teacher.

BTW, one explanation for people still being near each other is Eloise Hawkin's statement about the universe course correcting itself. Perhaps the nuke was such a big change that even when fixing itself, it can't do it perfectly. Hence why they're connected, but in different ways.

Not enough Kate stabbing, but still good.
And is it just me or did this episode answered nothing and just raised more questions..?

It answered the question of whether or not smokey had mommy issues

 

[Ryan8bit]

Ok, I've got some more thoughts/questions:

- What was the point of Charlotte being in this episode? It seems like you could've substituted anyone in for her and the episode would remain the same.

- Why did Sawyer let Kate go at the airport?

- I know we were all wondering where Sawyer was, but there still seems to be a chunk of time where he wasn't doing anything between when he was recruited and when the temple stuff happened.

- I'm wondering how Cooper could be a con man, yet still have a decent relationship with Locke.

- Why does Cindy even ask what happened to the Others at the temple? I thought it was pretty clear that the message was either leave or die, hence why they left at all. And how are they so oblivious to what Locke represents?

 

[doubleohfive]

If you have a problem with coincidences where characters run into each other, you're watching the wrong show.

Yeah I already knew that. But at least in the other flash whatevers, they made some of kind of sense that they could happen.

Now they're just throwing shit together for the factor. Miles and Sawyer together as cops?

The way I see it is that the sideways universe is how everything plays out without the interference of Jacob. But the timeline we started with is the interference of Jacob. Why is that relevant? Possibly because Jacob manipulated things in such a way that the same people's lives would be connected in order to prove some sort of point. So I don't feel that any of it is coincidence in the common sense that people define the word, but that it is an arranged fate. What the actual purpose of it is, I don't know.

Another point to remember is that the writers specifically stated that Los Angeles was literally the intersection of all these characters' lives, as punctuated by the premiere episode's title "LA X"; I'm guessing there's more to this little nugget of spoilery goodness to come that will shed more light on what exactly is going on with the flash-sideways.

 

[RoJoHen]

Ok, I've got some more thoughts/questions:

- What was the point of Charlotte being in this episode? It seems like you could've substituted anyone in for her and the episode would remain the same.

- Why did Sawyer let Kate go at the airport?

- I know we were all wondering where Sawyer was, but there still seems to be a chunk of time where he wasn't doing anything between when he was recruited and when the temple stuff happened.

- I'm wondering how Cooper could be a con man, yet still have a decent relationship with Locke.

- Why does Cindy even ask what happened to the Others at the temple? I thought it was pretty clear that the message was either leave or die, hence why they left at all. And how are they so oblivious to what Locke represents?

These are all problems I had with the episode, too, especially the first and last one.

Charlotte was there for no apparent reason. Then again, so was Miles.

And yeah, The Others have all apparently had chunks of their brains removed. However, I am having a hard time keeping straight who knows what about anything this season. There's too much meandering going on for me to keep anything straight.

 

[doubleohfive]

Ok, I've got some more thoughts/questions:

- What was the point of Charlotte being in this episode? It seems like you could've substituted anyone in for her and the episode would remain the same.

However true that may be, is it at all possible that the writers chose Charlotte because it would be nice to see her character one more time? Or could it even be because there's some larger plan at work involving her character we're just not aware of and that this was a stepping-stone toward it?

- Why did Sawyer let Kate go at the airport?

I'll go with the theory someone posted here elsewhere -- it was largely to keep Sawyer's flash-sideways a surprise. That, or it being Sawyer's day off he probably wasn't looking to get involved.

- I know we were all wondering where Sawyer was, but there still seems to be a chunk of time where he wasn't doing anything between when he was recruited and when the temple stuff happened.

Agreed. I wondered the same thing. Then again, maybe it took him longer to get back to the rest of the group; Smoke-monster was shown zooming around the island in smoke-form after the encounter with Sawyer.

- I'm wondering how Cooper could be a con man, yet still have a decent relationship with Locke.

This too would be nice to have expounded upon.

- Why does Cindy even ask what happened to the Others at the temple? I thought it was pretty clear that the message was either leave or die, hence why they left at all. And how are they so oblivious to what Locke represents?

Moreover, when are we going to get a Cindy flashback?

 

[RoJoHen]

- Why does Cindy even ask what happened to the Others at the temple? I thought it was pretty clear that the message was either leave or die, hence why they left at all. And how are they so oblivious to what Locke represents?

Moreover, when are we going to get a Cindy flashback?

No kidding!

I don't think the writers realize she is a mystery.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Another point to remember is that the writers specifically stated that Los Angeles was literally the intersection of all these characters' lives, as punctuated by the premiere episode's title "LA X"

Did they? If so, I'm really feeling the need to gloat over my opinion on the title as it aired. People were very dismissive of my claim thinking that the X simply referred to a parallel universe (which it still could be) as seen in other works of fiction.

is it at all possible that the writers chose Charlotte because it would be nice to see her character one more time? Or could it even be because there's some larger plan at work involving her character we're just not aware of and that this was a stepping-stone toward it?

The way the episode was presented, it really seems like the former.

At this point, though, I feel as if we're just being slapped over the head with the references to previous characters, yet they have no apparent narrative purpose. They seem like filler to appease a strange sort of fanboy that just wants to see certain characters again. It gives credence to people saying that the whole season feels like meandering filler.

I mean, is it too much to have Charlotte on and have an apparent purpose? How about some sort of clue at least regarding her being on the island?

it was largely to keep Sawyer's flash-sideways a surprise. That, or it being Sawyer's day off he probably wasn't looking to get involved.

I don't care much for it being a production reason, as that seems sloppy. I'm hoping there's a better reason that becomes more apparent later. I don't buy an off day, and he did get involved by trying to cover for Kate by letting her out of the elevator first.

If anything, I'm more inclined to believe that he did it because the security guys were being dicks about the security question, and that he has a personal code about the law. But even that seems vague. I'm sure it will be elaborated on in a future flash sideways.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The easiest explanation for me why he let Kate go in the elevator is that he really didnt want anybody to know he was in Australia. If he had helped arrest Kate, Miles would have found out about it.

 

[DarthPipes]

Sawyer did admit that he joined the police force for revenge. So he might not be the most dedicated cop on certain matters. Plus, I think he just liked Kate.