Damn, I wish ABC would do some Lost related spinoffs. A cop show with Sawyer and Miles and a teacher show about Linus, Locke, and Artz.
Lost 6x08: "Recon"
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The story was good, but nothing special.
The story was good, but nothing special.
Good episode. I always like the Sawyer ones but the Sideways stories were a little more enjoyable then some previous stories. I've always liked the Sawyer/Miles pairing so I was very pleased that he was Sawyer's partner much like he was when he was Lafluer.
I sincerely doubt that Flocke is actually going to try and get on the plane and fly away. I just don't know what his real plan is or why he is working so incredibly hard and keeping everyone happy and being so completely honest and accommodating to them all. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point because clearly Flocke has an agenda and I can't imagine his interest in those people is altruistic.
Sawyer playing both sides against each other was to be expected but still enjoyable. I sincerely hope they aren't spinning up a Kate/Sawyer/Jack thing again...I just can't handle it again and quite frankly it's a waste of time at this point in the story.
What does Widmore really know? Does he really think he can kill Smokey or does he just hope to trap/contain him?
All in all I enjoyed the episode really well but unfortunately for me, I'm starting to believe that we are witnessing the coda alongside of the climax of this story and while that's original, I don't like the idea of the story ending off-island.
8.9/10
I sincerely doubt that Flocke is actually going to try and get on the plane and fly away. I just don't know what his real plan is or why he is working so incredibly hard and keeping everyone happy and being so completely honest and accommodating to them all. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point because clearly Flocke has an agenda and I can't imagine his interest in those people is altruistic.
Sawyer playing both sides against each other was to be expected but still enjoyable. I sincerely hope they aren't spinning up a Kate/Sawyer/Jack thing again...I just can't handle it again and quite frankly it's a waste of time at this point in the story.
What does Widmore really know? Does he really think he can kill Smokey or does he just hope to trap/contain him?
All in all I enjoyed the episode really well but unfortunately for me, I'm starting to believe that we are witnessing the coda alongside of the climax of this story and while that's original, I don't like the idea of the story ending off-island.
8.9/10
This was one of the better episodes since this season and probably the best since the 2 hour premiere.
I have to say I've been a bit underwhelmed by the structure of the episodes this season coming off of nearly 2.5 seasons of near perfectly structured hour installments coupled with the expectations of this being the final season. Seasons 3-5 for the most part had jam-packed hours that did a little bit of everything and all of it was engaging.
This season I don't like how things have slowed down. LOST really readjusted my thresholds for pacing and this season feels like the writers discovered they had 18 hours of episodes but not enough story so I get the distinct feeling they are stretching things almost like back in the early years of the show. Another problem that adds to this is the addition of the alternate flash thread. None of them have been able to hold my interest. Maybe down the road or out of pure nostalgia when I revisit the series years from now they'll be looked on more favorably by me but for now they aren't doing it for me.
I was somewhat interested in them when it seemed they were a "What if..." of what the survivors lives would have been like had they not landed on the islane. But instead of it being a divergent story where the point of divergence was never going to the island and everything before that was identical it seems that this is simply a parallel universe or reality with the same players but just in different roles with different interconnections with different other characters.
I can see the writers using it in part to bring back old dead faces like Martin, Alex and Charlotte but a lot of these characters were just plot devices that I never had a connection with so one final cameo doesn't seem worth it plus the ptrope of characters crossing paths and having intertwined lives was fascinating in the early years but by now that effect has worn off--it doesn't carry the same shock factor or intrigue it once did.
And one of the things I could care less about in the final season as far as outstanding unresolved issues is the whole Kate/Sawyer romance. Sure it has been a major ongoing thread but it has also been an uninteresting one.
Like every episode so far while the alternate flashes are the least interesting the stuff on the island fares better in particular the mystery of Widmore's return. At first, I thought he might be in league with the smoke monster but now it seems they might have conflicting agendas. And where is Jacob in all this?
On a purely superficial note I hate Claire's wig--in every scene it is distracting just get rid of it already.
I have enough confidence in the writers based on their track record to deliver but let's hurry up and add some urgency to the remaining episodes, lets get Eloise, Widmore and the remaining players and mysteries front-and-center and if there is a more interesting point to the alternate flashes get to it since in a vacuum on their own they are boring. See that's always the downside to the double-edged sword of getting viewers used to such high standards that you have to keep it up.
None of the episodes have been bad this season just not what I had grown accustomed to from LOST. Maybe like DS9 in its final season things will begin to kick into high gear shortly--crosses fingers.
Above average I suppose.
I have to say I've been a bit underwhelmed by the structure of the episodes this season coming off of nearly 2.5 seasons of near perfectly structured hour installments coupled with the expectations of this being the final season. Seasons 3-5 for the most part had jam-packed hours that did a little bit of everything and all of it was engaging.
This season I don't like how things have slowed down. LOST really readjusted my thresholds for pacing and this season feels like the writers discovered they had 18 hours of episodes but not enough story so I get the distinct feeling they are stretching things almost like back in the early years of the show. Another problem that adds to this is the addition of the alternate flash thread. None of them have been able to hold my interest. Maybe down the road or out of pure nostalgia when I revisit the series years from now they'll be looked on more favorably by me but for now they aren't doing it for me.
I was somewhat interested in them when it seemed they were a "What if..." of what the survivors lives would have been like had they not landed on the islane. But instead of it being a divergent story where the point of divergence was never going to the island and everything before that was identical it seems that this is simply a parallel universe or reality with the same players but just in different roles with different interconnections with different other characters.
I can see the writers using it in part to bring back old dead faces like Martin, Alex and Charlotte but a lot of these characters were just plot devices that I never had a connection with so one final cameo doesn't seem worth it plus the ptrope of characters crossing paths and having intertwined lives was fascinating in the early years but by now that effect has worn off--it doesn't carry the same shock factor or intrigue it once did.
And one of the things I could care less about in the final season as far as outstanding unresolved issues is the whole Kate/Sawyer romance. Sure it has been a major ongoing thread but it has also been an uninteresting one.
Like every episode so far while the alternate flashes are the least interesting the stuff on the island fares better in particular the mystery of Widmore's return. At first, I thought he might be in league with the smoke monster but now it seems they might have conflicting agendas. And where is Jacob in all this?
On a purely superficial note I hate Claire's wig--in every scene it is distracting just get rid of it already.
I have enough confidence in the writers based on their track record to deliver but let's hurry up and add some urgency to the remaining episodes, lets get Eloise, Widmore and the remaining players and mysteries front-and-center and if there is a more interesting point to the alternate flashes get to it since in a vacuum on their own they are boring. See that's always the downside to the double-edged sword of getting viewers used to such high standards that you have to keep it up.
None of the episodes have been bad this season just not what I had grown accustomed to from LOST. Maybe like DS9 in its final season things will begin to kick into high gear shortly--crosses fingers.
Above average I suppose.
The slowing down of the show and taking its time reminds me of The Sopranos final year (Ken Leung did a guest shot that season interestingly). They did some big stuff in the second to last season but the series finale was a bust.
What I remember with Nikki and Paolo is a lot of people wanted to see more of the other survivors on the show. They got it with these two but then the fans absolutely hated them and understandably so with the way they were written into the story. Did love the last episode though with the very TZ end.
What I remember with Nikki and Paolo is a lot of people wanted to see more of the other survivors on the show. They got it with these two but then the fans absolutely hated them and understandably so with the way they were written into the story. Did love the last episode though with the very TZ end.
Below Average. The Sawyer flashsideways plot was predictable, and it reminded me that I don't like Miles.
The Island plot was just silly. Claire is a fucking whackjob.
However, my brother and I spent a good 3-4 minutes trying to figure out how all those Hydra Island people fit on the Ajira flight. We didn't remember seeing them in 316, and we kept speculating that they were in the cargo hold. We had a retard moment when we saw the submarine, and we were like, "Oh, they're Widmore's people! Duh!"
The Island plot was just silly. Claire is a fucking whackjob.
However, my brother and I spent a good 3-4 minutes trying to figure out how all those Hydra Island people fit on the Ajira flight. We didn't remember seeing them in 316, and we kept speculating that they were in the cargo hold. We had a retard moment when we saw the submarine, and we were like, "Oh, they're Widmore's people! Duh!"
Claire seemed to be back to her normal self when she broke down and cried and hugged Kate. Or was that all just an act due to not-Locke's prodding? What if not-Locke decides Kate isn't on his side, he could probably sic Claire on her to kill her if he wanted. But I don't even know why he'd do that. He can kill anyone he wants to seemingly with impunity.
I'm hoping she's not beyond redemption, but it's hard to tell with Claire right now.
I wondered if the smoke monster if Aaron traveled back in time. He could have caused his own mommy issues.
I wondered if the smoke monster if Aaron traveled back in time. He could have caused his own mommy issues.
I caught on to something that made me think, when notLocke was talking about him having a crazy mother, like Aaron has with Claire, it made me think, ok, is the MIB/notLocke Aaron from the future? Just a thought that crossed my head when he was speaking about having a crazy mother, he seems to have an interest in Claire as it is.
Ok, good episode, not a whole heck of a lot answered, but at least one more person knows notLocke is smokey. I knew Sawyer was playing both sides, he's always in it for himself, in this reality he is NOT a team player, while in the sideways universe he is.
Really looking forward to next week, a Richard episode, this is a first right? I hope they finally answer some stuff about him, they sure make it sound like they are, but you never know, heh.
Ok, good episode, not a whole heck of a lot answered, but at least one more person knows notLocke is smokey. I knew Sawyer was playing both sides, he's always in it for himself, in this reality he is NOT a team player, while in the sideways universe he is.
Really looking forward to next week, a Richard episode, this is a first right? I hope they finally answer some stuff about him, they sure make it sound like they are, but you never know, heh.
I was going to suggest it's because Sawyer actually knew where the plane was going... but it was going to Guam (Frank's famous quote: "We're not going to Guam, are we?").
When she asked about the number of people and the guns, that's what tipped me off so maybe Sawyer caught it too.
Excellent.
In light of this latest episode it seems a bit odd that Sawyer would have covered for Kate in the premiere when they were both in the elevator. On the other hand, it provided excellent misdirection for the reveal that Sawyer actually was a cop.
Super excited about next week's episode. Richard was saying "this, all of this around you, it's not what it seems to be" or something to that effect in the teaser. What could he possible mean by that?
I'm not sure why but I get the impression that Not-Locke thinks that if he can get everyone off of the island it will "end" or something. "End program."
In light of this latest episode it seems a bit odd that Sawyer would have covered for Kate in the premiere when they were both in the elevator. On the other hand, it provided excellent misdirection for the reveal that Sawyer actually was a cop.
Super excited about next week's episode. Richard was saying "this, all of this around you, it's not what it seems to be" or something to that effect in the teaser. What could he possible mean by that?
I'm not sure why but I get the impression that Not-Locke thinks that if he can get everyone off of the island it will "end" or something. "End program."
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Love it. Sawyer cons Widmore *and* notLocke.
Effing AWESOME.
Effing AWESOME.
Well, just last episode I was wondering what was happening with all of the other Ajira survivors and now we found out. That's cool. I'm glad they didn't just forget about them.
I wonder if smokie actually did kill them all, or if Widmore's people did. it doesn't seem like smokie to take all the bodies and put them in a pile (or to have to drag them to the pile). But if they are setting Widmore up to be a "good guy" then having him kill all those innocent people seems weird as well. I wish Sawyer had taken a closer look at the bodies. If they were all shot up then we would know it was Widmore. No bullet wounds would mean smokie.
I wonder if smokie actually did kill them all, or if Widmore's people did. it doesn't seem like smokie to take all the bodies and put them in a pile (or to have to drag them to the pile). But if they are setting Widmore up to be a "good guy" then having him kill all those innocent people seems weird as well. I wish Sawyer had taken a closer look at the bodies. If they were all shot up then we would know it was Widmore. No bullet wounds would mean smokie.
That's pretty much it. And the coincidences of all the characters meeting up in the sideways flash stories is getting to be over the top for me.
If you have a problem with coincidences where characters run into each other, you're watching the wrong show.
Whats in the double locked door? My theory is that it's Eloise Hawking, thats how Widmore made it back to the island.
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Excellent.
Part of me was hoping Claire would kill Kate...just to shake things up.
Part of me was hoping Claire would kill Kate...just to shake things up.
typical Lost.
This episode was excellent though. And I'm thinking if those Ajira folks were killed by guns, wouldn't there be more blood? Especially with the bodies dragged into the pile. It is ABC owned by Disney, but still. This will be as close as Lost gets to being a cop show that it will ever get, haha.
It answered the question of whether or not Claire was going to try to kill Kate, and it solidified the concept that NotLocke actually was a person at one point (though, I'm still not entirely sold on that one). It answered whatever happened to the Ajira flight people, and what is Widmore up to (sort-of answered). But yeah, it did raise more questions than it answered.
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