24 - Day 8: 3:00AM - 4:00AM: Discussion and Spoilers

[Morpheus 02]

Poor Katie Sackhoff...she probably auditioned for the show thinking she was going to get to kick ass, and she gets saddled with some of the most awful shit ever written during the show's run.

I like that storyline. I don't know where all the hate is coming from. If she were just another ass-kicking agent, that would have been less interesting.

No, but it shold be somethign that would make sense. Her situation seems like it would warrant talking to SOMEONE in CTU, even if it was Chloe. Between the two of them they could have come up with some kind of weird scheme, yet actually be at their jobs during the crisis.

Shoot...i was thinking that the more "realistic" internal conspiracy would be Arlo covering up his cyber stalking of using government equipment to look for bikini babes.

That behavior could be overlooked, or it could get him fired.

Having the investigator at CT before and during the crisis might have been more interesting (i.e. an outsider seeing the value of CTU & its personnel; deciding on if they should overlook a matter or not).


Personally i think that should be the internal CTU crisis -- someone covering up their own incompetence.

A runner up -- two agencies trying to "compete" to succeed, and the disaster it creates. This scenario is DEFINITELY real life, even 7 years after 9/11.

 

[Scout101]

So, here's a question, and sorry if it's already been asked: Where did the EMP come from?

Not like you can buy them at Terrorists 'R Us, and seemed like taking out CTU would have taken a lot of planning, as part of getting the rods into the city.

Which is all well and good, but wasn't blowing up the rods in the city just an emergency fallback plan, once they couldn't get them out of the country? Seems like they're working on a plan that should have taken a lot of time and effort, but it was just the fallback because the main plan fell to shit.

The way they are linking everything like each new plan was the main plan all along, reminds me of season 4, and we're starting to fall into Marwan Fail Loop planning stages now...

 

[Aragorn]

Maybe they got the EMP from the season 4 corporation who discovered that they had unknowingly worked with a terrorist... in which their natural response was to use their own personal mercenary force to kill Jack Bauer, because that sure beats resigning from your business in shame (because if you kill the lead investigator who discovered your terrorist connection, there will be absolutely no follow-up to his death and no one else will ever investigate you any further).

 

[Tom]

Part of me thinks the terrorists are planing to take over the drones and maybe have them deliver the dirty bomb. There has been a lot of talk in the show about the drones and now CTU has lost control of them.

 

[doubleohfive]

Watching now. Jack really needs to join the Bluetooth generation.

 

[DarthPipes]

Jack was right to rip Cole for getting distracted on the phone but Jack's one to talk. How many personal calls has he taken over the course of the show's run?

 

[doubleohfive]

I had a similar, gut reaction to that scene ... but then again, if anyone can look back and reprimand Cole, Jack, while hypocritical about it, also knows the terrible price to pay when you do run off and attend to personal things.

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

Good.

The rank stupidity of the NYPD and Dana's sidestory drag what would otherwise be a great episode down. I liked that Jack picked up on Taran's cop impersonation. He probably had a flashback to Marwan and a light bulb blinked on upstairs.

As for the shifting villain plot, I think that's one they've done correctly. The head terrorist never intended to ship those rods back to Iran. This was always going to be the plan. He was always going to screw over the traitor brother and Taran was always going to kidnap the daughter, then trojan horse the EMP into CTU.

Ridiculously over-complicated, but hey, why dirty-bomb Newark in a couple days, when New York's right here and you've placed an artificial time constraint on yourself? They want to make a statement the whole world will see, trigger a major war, etc., etc. and frankly, would anyone even notice if Newark got hit?

 

[Harvey]

If that was always the plan, wasn't having Taran in the car that was targeted by the bomb incredibly dangerous? How else would they have kidnapped the daughter?

 

[Scout101]

Exactly. If the early plan had actually worked, the larger plan would have failed. Good job, super-villians...

 

[Trekker4747]

I had a similar, gut reaction to that scene ... but then again, if anyone can look back and reprimand Cole, Jack, while hypocritical about it, also knows the terrible price to pay when you do run off and attend to personal things.

To be fair, also, Jack is able to take these personal phone calls and still do his job effectively. Same cannot be said for Cole.

 

[doubleohfive]

Well, that's because Jack is written that way. The same way he was written to suddenly figure out that Taran was impersonating the cop. The same way Jack was written to sum up the episode in that corny last line of the episode.

 

[Aragorn]

I had a similar, gut reaction to that scene ... but then again, if anyone can look back and reprimand Cole, Jack, while hypocritical about it, also knows the terrible price to pay when you do run off and attend to personal things.

To be fair, also, Jack is able to take these personal phone calls and still do his job effectively. Same cannot be said for Cole.

Drop off the dry cleaning... check.

Eliminate the sniper on the rooftop... check.

Take the dog for a walk... check.

Deactivate the dirty bomb... check.

Get pizza for the Cub Scout pack... check.

Uncover the mole in the President's staff... check.

 

[Trekker4747]

Well, that's because Jack is written that way. The same way he was written to suddenly figure out that Taran was impersonating the cop. The same way Jack was written to sum up the episode in that corny last line of the episode.

Sure he's written that way, that means in the world of 24 Jack is awesome and get away with pulling ideas out of his ass like Glen Beck on a bender, fortunately Jack's always right.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Drop off the dry cleaning... check.

Eliminate the sniper on the rooftop... check.

Take the dog for a walk... check.

Deactivate the dirty bomb... check.

Get pizza for the Cub Scout pack... check.

Uncover the mole in the President's staff... check.

I was thinking just today that it would be nice to see a lighter season where Jack gets into some trouble doing everyday stuff.

 

[Aragorn]

"Boss, I was late again delivering the pizza, so the customer got it for free again."

"Damnit!"

"You know, most pizza joints have a 30 minute delivery policy. Why would you go with 10 minutes? Nothing's ever 10 minutes away."

 

[doubleohfive]

Well, that's because Jack is written that way. The same way he was written to suddenly figure out that Taran was impersonating the cop. The same way Jack was written to sum up the episode in that corny last line of the episode.

Sure he's written that way, that means in the world of 24 Jack is awesome and get away with pulling ideas out of his ass like Glen Beck on a bender, fortunately Jack's always right.

Which is one of the larger, glaring issues I have with the show. Jack can do no wrong, seemingly.

How convenient.

All I'm saying is that yeah, Jack's a hypocrite for going off on Cole the way he did, but Jack also has the perspective of having let himself get distracted from the main objective of his mission and paid a terrible, terrible price for it so even though he's being hypocritical, he's also not wrong.

...which is how he's usually written.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

So, here's a question, and sorry if it's already been asked: Where did the EMP come from?

The same place where they got the suicide bomber jacket with the LED countdown, I guess.

What got me is this: why didn't it cross CTU's mind that Kayla might be working with the terrorists and her "escape" was just a ruse? Just because the audience knows she's a good guy doesn't mean everyone on this show should know that too! Her uncle and boyfriend are traitors - shouldn't she at least fall under enough suspicion that she wouldn't be allowed anywhere close to CTU?

It does crack me up that the terrorists accidentally saved Dana's ass. Oops, there goes all our data! Shucks!

 

[RobertScorpio]

Well..I don't care about all this fuss. I thought it was a good episode and when it was all over we all shouted "SHIT!!" because we wanted to know what happens next.

If 24 accomplishes that, then above all else, it works. Kind of hard to do for a show in its 1000th season...If certain scifi shows managed even half of the fun this show had with its audience then maybe they would have lasted longer too..

Rob

 

[Yoda]

Man, this car handles like I'm lugging a big old EMP in the trunk or something!

I don't know how they got the EMP, that Tarin guy was only on like a 5 kill streak, he should've gotten the Predator strike. Needed another 10 kills for EMP

I liked the guy who looked at the countdown on the EMP, saw that he had like 5 seconds, and thought he could drive it out of range. That was about as big a FAIL as I've seen on 24

And yeah, very strange that they just let that parole guy wander wherever the hell he feels like. He kind of stumbles around like he's got some form of dementia.

Honestly I don't think this show has been 'good' since Season 2, but it's still strangely entertaining and brings WTF on a weekly basis