The Karate Kid - Aka Kung Fu Kid - Still The Karate kid

[Magnum]

Wal-Mart has all three on sale for about 13 bucks, that's three great movies

That's ONE great movie and two lousy ones.

You didn't like part 2? I had such a crush on Tamlyn Tomita, Kumiko, when I was a kid. I was shocked when I realized that she was playing Hiro's mother. She still looks hot!

She was also in a season 7 episode of Monk, looking great, IMO.

Tamlyn Tomita and Carrie Fisher were my 2 big crushes of the 1980s.

 

[Harvey]

They tried to cast Steven Seagal as Ghengis Khan.

Everyone knows that part is forever John Wayne's.

What?

 

[DarthPipes]

Oh great, another bad remake of a good movie with Will Smith putting his brat in the central role.

 

[Aragorn]

But his son is a lock for Bad Boys Origins: The Beginning!

 

[Snaploud]

I'll probably watch it...not that I'm proud of that fact...

 

[Caligula]

Wal-Mart has all three on sale for about 13 bucks, that's three great movies

That's ONE great movie and two lousy ones.

One GREAT movie, one not as good but still entertaining sequel with a hotter love interest for Daniel, and one really horrendous third chapter.

 

[JacksonArcher]

So much hate for a movie that hasn't even come out yet...

 

[firehawk12]

The thing is that it's not even a remake or even a reboot... it's someone taking the name and using it to make an entirely different movie.

 

[Emher]

I thought it was a decent trailer, and I've never seen the original. Kinda stupid with the name but the movie might be decent.

 

[Captain Craig]

The thing is that it's not even a remake or even a reboot... it's someone taking the name and using it to make an entirely different movie.

Uh, no-did you see a different movie trailer?

Karate Kid basics
Mom & son relocate: original was NY-LA, remake is US to China
Male lead falls for local girl who just happens to have a bruiser of an admirer already
Teacher is: orignal-maintence man, remake-also a maintence man
Learning martial arts- original has household chores mimicking moves(wax on/off), remake shows us one which is clothing inspired (jacket on/off)
No doubt our lead also ends up beating the main antagonist in some public forum for all to see. Proably more directly related themes from the original will be seen once the movie is seen beyond a 2min trailer.

Then there is the whole 'catch fly with chopstick' gag.

This is not an entirely different movie, ok, kung fu vs karate, yes but that trailer shows they are using the same basics of the original.

 

[Lookingglassman]

I dont like nepotism so I am not going to support Will Smith's kid by paying to go see his movie. If Will Smith was just a Walmart stockboy and Jada Pinket worked the cash registers, he wouldnt be in this movie.

Plus the whole premise seems absurd - Poor, black single mother moves to China? C'mon!!!!! It would have been more believable if she moved to Canada or even England, but China??

 

[Skywalker]

I dont like nepotism so I am not going to support Will Smith's kid by paying to go see his movie. If Will Smith was just a Walmart stockboy and Jada Pinket worked the cash registers, he wouldnt be in this movie.

Plus the whole premise seems absurd - Poor, black single mother moves to China? C'mon!!!!! It would have been more believable if she moved to Canada or even England, but China??

Uh, how do we know she's poor?

Movie looks like crap anyway. Jackie Chan ought to know better. It's not like he needs the paycheck.

 

[firehawk12]

The thing is that it's not even a remake or even a reboot... it's someone taking the name and using it to make an entirely different movie.

Uh, no-did you see a different movie trailer?

Karate Kid basics
Mom & son relocate: original was NY-LA, remake is US to China
Male lead falls for local girl who just happens to have a bruiser of an admirer already
Teacher is: orignal-maintence man, remake-also a maintence man
Learning martial arts- original has household chores mimicking moves(wax on/off), remake shows us one which is clothing inspired (jacket on/off)
No doubt our lead also ends up beating the main antagonist in some public forum for all to see. Proably more directly related themes from the original will be seen once the movie is seen beyond a 2min trailer.

Then there is the whole 'catch fly with chopstick' gag.

This is not an entirely different movie, ok, kung fu vs karate, yes but that trailer shows they are using the same basics of the original.

I'm weird, but to me, the original movie was as much about Miyagi dealing with being Japanese American as much as it was about whatshisname dealing with being the new kid at school.

I'm sure Jackie Chan/Chinese Miyagi will have some "dark past" as well, but Miyagi reminiscing about the internment camps was as much a part of the original movie to me as "wax on wax off".

Edit: My remake would go like this, if one had to take it out of the US: Mixed race Japanese/American kid moves to Japan with his/her family and is instantly ostracized for being different. To connect with his/her heritage, he/she decides to learn Karate and the story happens as usual. To complicate matters more, the sensei could somehow be a victim of WW2 - either a atomic bomb survivor or whatever.
This allows you to touch on some of the themes raised in the first film and also do your cheesy training montages and climatic tournament battles.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

Ugh. As if karate doesn't get confused with kung fu enough as it is. They're totally different forms of self defense. After being trained in karate for over 10 years, I can't tell you how many times people would ask me to show them some kung fu.

I guess to Hollywood anything done by an Asian guy punching and kicking is all the same thing

This movie looks like complete shit.

 

[Captain Craig]

I'm weird, but to me, the original movie was as much about Miyagi dealing with being Japanese American as much as it was about whatshisname dealing with being the new kid at school.

I'm sure Jackie Chan/Chinese Miyagi will have some "dark past" as well, but Miyagi reminiscing about the internment camps was as much a part of the original movie to me as "wax on wax off".

Yes, that was a part of the Miyagi character development, even still it wasn't the focus. Those were little moments that Miyagi more than just a teacher but a man with a past. It was even good, I wouldn't dispute that.

The statment you made though was that this is 'an entirely different movie' and this remake is not.
As I said other parallels will likely reveal themselves once the movie comes out. I wouldn't be surprised is Chan's Miyaig character maybe knows someone or lost a loved one at say Tiananman Square in '89.

 

[Aragorn]

Ugh. As if karate doesn't get confused with kung fu enough as it is. They're totally different forms of self defense. After being trained in karate for over 10 years, I can't tell you how many times people would ask me to show them some kung fu.

I guess to Hollywood anything done by an Asian guy punching and kicking is all the same thing

This movie looks like complete shit.

The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre is about guy who kills with throwing stars.

 

[CaptainCanada]

I guess to Hollywood anything done by an Asian guy punching and kicking is all the same thing

It's a matter of brand-name recognition (I do agree it would be easier to just call in The Kung Fu Kid, which would also quiet of the complainers).

 

[Tiberius Jim]

It'd be even easier to not even make the movie in the first place, and leave things alone.

 

[firehawk12]

I'm weird, but to me, the original movie was as much about Miyagi dealing with being Japanese American as much as it was about whatshisname dealing with being the new kid at school.

I'm sure Jackie Chan/Chinese Miyagi will have some "dark past" as well, but Miyagi reminiscing about the internment camps was as much a part of the original movie to me as "wax on wax off".

Yes, that was a part of the Miyagi character development, even still it wasn't the focus. Those were little moments that Miyagi more than just a teacher but a man with a past. It was even good, I wouldn't dispute that.

The statment you made though was that this is 'an entirely different movie' and this remake is not.
As I said other parallels will likely reveal themselves once the movie comes out. I wouldn't be surprised is Chan's Miyaig character maybe knows someone or lost a loved one at say Tiananman Square in '89.

There's no way that this movie will have ANY criticism of China though - by simply being filmed in China and Jackie Chan not wanting to be banned/blacklisted. I'm even surprised that they were allowed to show Chinese kids being racist... although I'm sure the movie itself will show it's not racism but some easier to digest explanation.

(Famously, last year a Black-Chinese beauty pageant contestant for a show in China was traumatized by the racism she suffered at the hands of the Chinese public that she chose to disappear into obscurity. The word was that she was chosen to be on the show simply because the producers knew it would be controversial. Basically, she was a circus act.)

But anyway, I've always found the Miyagi character to be the heart of the first film. I chalked it up to using teen angst film to educate people about America's past and destabilize the fetishization of the East.

But I do admit that I'm strange like that.