Was Hitler actually evil?

[DontFeedPhil]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

 

[Roger Wilco]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing.

That's exactly what you were saying.

 

[ST-One]

Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.

You loved 'Mein Kampf', didn't you?

 

[crookeddy]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

Seriously dude, wtf? First of all epic fail on the premise. Morgan Stanley's CEO is John J. Mack. Does that sound Jewish to you? Actually he is from Lebanon. The federal reserve is run by the federal government. The same government that has never had a Jewish President.

And did you know that Jews are American citizens? And thus have every right to get rich? Unless they break laws, and then they have to suffer the consequences. You know, like all other Americans.

 

[crookeddy]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing.

That's exactly what you were saying.

Nope. What he is saying is it's ok to kill 6 million people if you believe in a nonsense conspiracy theory about world domination. Otherwise, I am sure he thinks it might be a bad idea.

 

[Trekker4747]

[Uncle Leo]Anti-Semite![/Uncle Leo]

Fuck, even Hitler would read that and go, "Dude. Too far, man!"

Nah... probably not. So... what is it that our government made up that actually covers up that the Nazis were actually not racist murderers with ambitions of world domination?

 

[crookeddy]

Fuck, even Hitler would read that and go, "Dude. Too far, man!"

Nah... probably not. So... what is it that our government made up that actually covers up that the Nazis were actually not racist murderers with ambitions of world domination?

I don't think Hitler would disapprove of that post, but realize that you were probably kidding.

My next sentence is addressed to DFP, as he said we shouldn't believe half of what our government tells us. I am wondering what our government could be hiding that would make me change my mind about the Nazis.

 

[Trekker4747]

Nah... probably not. So... what is it that our government made up that actually covers up that the Nazis were actually not racist murderers with ambitions of world domination?

I don't think Hitler would disapprove of that post, but realize that you were probably kidding.

I was kidding.

My next sentence is addressed to DFP, as he said we shouldn't believe half of what our government tells us. I am wondering what our government could be hiding that would make me change my mind about the Nazis.

This explains the part that confused me.

 

[Kelthaz]

It depends on your definition of evil.

If you view evil as a pure and malevolent force bent only upon destruction, such as Sauron or The Emperor, than Hitler would not be evil. He was a man, a flawed man, who did horrible things, but not for the sole purpose of destruction. By this definition no living person can be evil.

If you view evil as a less absolute state and more as a result of actions taken and the intention behind those actions than Hitler would be evil. Plenty of people would be considered evil by this definition.

 

[KimMH]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

Why does anyone continue to engage a battle of wits and morals with such an inadequately armed combatant?

 

[Roshi]

Man, this thread sure delivers!

 

[crookeddy]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

Why does anyone continue to engage a battle of wits and morals with such an inadequately armed combatant?

I am guessing he is trolling. I mean there is nothing of substance at all being spoken here. Just stereotypical rhetoric.

 

[Squiggy]

 

[Bloodwhiner]

For those (Phil) who fault Jews for being in banking and lending, do you have any historical knowledge of why Jews have been associated with that industry?

The early Christian church forbade usury or charging interest on loaned money. The Jewish faith held no such restriction. So they filled a needed void and established a tradition in money lending which became the basis of banking.

As to the topic - Hitler and his cronies were evil but really no more so than Stalin or Mao. Hitler's evil is just far better known.

 

[Squiggy]

Hitler did one thing that Stalin was never ever to do...he totally destroyed the name Adolf. Joesph is still fine and good but how many Adolfs do you know?

 

[KimMH]

For those (Phil) who fault Jews for being in banking and lending, do you have any historical knowledge of why Jews have been associated with that industry?

The early Christian church forbade usury or charging interest on loaned money. The Jewish faith held no such restriction. So they filled a needed void and established a tradition in money lending which became the basis of banking.

As to the topic - Hitler and his cronies were evil but really no more so than Stalin or Mao. Hitler's evil is just far better known.

This is true. The Nazis documented what they did - they were proud of what they were doing. Astoundingly enough they documented their brutality in movie form as well as copious written documents. They were preserving their work "for posterity" and their 1000 year reich.

This is in contrast to Stalin and Mao who hid their bloodbaths knowing world opinion would turn against them if the brutality they used was well known.

That the world court was able to use much of the documentation to convict some (Not enough) of war crimes is what Shakespeare called being "hung by one's own petard."

 

[sidious618]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

You can't possibly be serious.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

I really, really hate to see the casual way in which the "we're the good guys, they're evil" mentality ignores the complexities of all side's behaviour.

Sometimes things really are that simple. Absolutes do exist. There are people who are genuinely good, and those who are evil. Trying to claim otherwise - that there is no such thing as good or evil - is meaningless.

Very very true.

 

[Iasius]

See what I mean about Little Sheep? Im not saying killing 6 million people is a good thing. But the Jewish People take a place/country/land and they infest it and take over all the financial institutions. Then they drain it of all its resources and Hoard them.
So am I wrong that places like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sacks, and even the Federal Reserve are run by a majoity of Jewish people? And Am I wrong that our counrty (USA) is on the verge of bankruptcy?

You can't possibly be serious.

I'm surprised that people with such opinions post on a Star Trek BBS.

Aside from that, what's so surprising that there are people who hold such opinions? Antisemitism didn't die out when Hitler committed suicide. That's why it's important that we don't get complacent.
Antisemitism isn't like smallpox (along with many other -isms).

 

[RJDiogenes]

Why is it okay to draft a load of young men and boys into a military, send them off to die for your ideals, but moan when people do esssentially the same thing for their ideals?

Because the "ideals" of the other people include eradicating all Jews, Blacks, Gypsies, Homosexuals and pretty much everyone else, as well as forcing the survivors to live in a dark, fearful, oppressive society where culture is criminalized and citizens have no Rights, and if you don't do what you can to defend your own ideals these other people will come and kill you.

I'm not saying I disagree, my friend. You're right. But I really, really hate to see the casual way in which the "we're the good guys, they're evil" mentality ignores the complexities of all side's behaviour.

Yes, it can certainly be complex. It's true that we sometimes have to fight for our Rights and Freedom, but there are those who will recycle that truth as propaganda to promote their own agenda. Worse yet, a war (or any situation) can be both a truth and a lie at the same time. Which is why we all should always be clear in the whys and wherefores of what we do, and be able to back it up with hard reality.