it had some cool stuff. I liked Matt controlling Eli at the end...but I cant stand goody goody Sylar.
Heroes: "Brave New World" - 2/8/10 - Season (Series?) Finale
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I can... somebody has to become that person in the future with the child who gets killed and goes nuclear on washington. evil wouldn't care if your child dies...
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I gave it a excellent. It was actually really good. Especially the ending.
And did anyone else notice that Claire had sooo much makeup on? She looked like she was done up to go to the oscars and just put a couple smudges of dirt on...
And did anyone else notice that Claire had sooo much makeup on? She looked like she was done up to go to the oscars and just put a couple smudges of dirt on...
So Samual just loses he powers when a crowd of people vanish. Peter, Sylar, Emma and Doyle were still in the carnival. When samual buried other things like the town how many specials were around him then? He still should have had enough power to at least bury central park. Just saying..
Also surprised Noah did not shot him.
Also surprised Noah did not shot him.
yes but I never bought his "redemption" for a second, it was so terribly done. Even worse was how easily guys like Peter and Matt accepted it.
peter spent five years inside of the stockholm syndrome... although its something I hope to never understand, I can understand it... peter and matt, both mental telepaths (whats a good word) delved into the mind of sylar and came up realizing people can change... two steps forward one step back...
Yeah I'd like to know too since I haven't watched it in a few weeks.
Not good, but it was passable. Ending brings some needed change. Last season made me want to watch next season. This time, I feel I just want to watch it because I've gone this far.
well... lets see...
clare and father... understand each other...
hero and charlie... reach a understanding... so hero can move on...
sylar convinces matt and peter he's changed...
sylar saves violin girl and
peter steals the earth movers powers and stops him...
clair... demonstrates to the world in front of tv cameras she can not die...
clare and father... understand each other...
hero and charlie... reach a understanding... so hero can move on...
sylar convinces matt and peter he's changed...
sylar saves violin girl and
peter steals the earth movers powers and stops him...
clair... demonstrates to the world in front of tv cameras she can not die...
- Robert Knepper was in top form tonight. He really hammed it up good as the bad guy, just like Ian McDiarmid did in Star Wars Episode III.
- K. Callan really did look like an old Charlie.
- Pretty good ending. Finally, some real change. May be too late too.
- K. Callan really did look like an old Charlie.
- Pretty good ending. Finally, some real change. May be too late too.
Really enjoyed it overall, no big complaints. I'd like to see it renewed but they need, I dunno, some new writers or some fresh blood or something.
Niggling questions:
Why did Tracy just vanish after rescuing Noah and Claire? Did I miss a line of dialogue?
Was Matt's plan with Eli "follow Peter and Sylar, do what you can to stop Samuel"?
Did Mohinder do anything at all useful this season? Or even anything not-really-useful?
Regarding the Charlie solution. I thought it was a really nice wrap up for that storyline and I'd like to give all the kudos to the Heroes staff for thinking of that. However... as soon as Hiro saw oldCharlie in the hospital bed, I knew what had happened and was half expecting a Weeping Angel to appear somewhere.
And then her granddaughter's name was "Sally," eh? I'm not saying Heroes ripped off Who, but... inspired by, that's a nicer way of putting it, right? Maybe Claude was there, just behind the scenes. 
Niggling questions:
Why did Tracy just vanish after rescuing Noah and Claire? Did I miss a line of dialogue?
Was Matt's plan with Eli "follow Peter and Sylar, do what you can to stop Samuel"?
Did Mohinder do anything at all useful this season? Or even anything not-really-useful?
Regarding the Charlie solution. I thought it was a really nice wrap up for that storyline and I'd like to give all the kudos to the Heroes staff for thinking of that. However... as soon as Hiro saw oldCharlie in the hospital bed, I knew what had happened and was half expecting a Weeping Angel to appear somewhere.
And then her granddaughter's name was "Sally," eh? I'm not saying Heroes ripped off Who, but... inspired by, that's a nicer way of putting it, right? Maybe Claude was there, just behind the scenes. 
Not too bad... I'm feeling generous, so I'll give it an above average. Some things felt kind of rushed after the painfully slow pace of the rest of the season, but at least things were actually happening -- plus the episode managed to hold my attention, which is pretty good for Heroes these days.
Still not buying Sylar's repentance, perceived years of solitude and reflection or not. That really needed to be more gradual, and spread out over a few episodes, at least.
Once Hiro got that message from Charlie in the hospital, I had a feeling he would find her as an old woman. But while I wasn't terribly surprised, I thought it was a decent, almost touching way to wrap up that sub-plot.
Oh yeah, and a Volume Six preview? That's rather presumptuous on their part, isn't it?
Claire passed on a message from Tracy to Noah: "You owe me one." That's it. So that's all from her for now, apparently. It seems, unsurprisingly, that the writers didn't know what the heck to do with Tracy this season, so where she's going from here is a mystery.
Still not buying Sylar's repentance, perceived years of solitude and reflection or not. That really needed to be more gradual, and spread out over a few episodes, at least.
Once Hiro got that message from Charlie in the hospital, I had a feeling he would find her as an old woman. But while I wasn't terribly surprised, I thought it was a decent, almost touching way to wrap up that sub-plot.
Oh yeah, and a Volume Six preview? That's rather presumptuous on their part, isn't it?
Claire passed on a message from Tracy to Noah: "You owe me one." That's it. So that's all from her for now, apparently. It seems, unsurprisingly, that the writers didn't know what the heck to do with Tracy this season, so where she's going from here is a mystery.
I'm shocked. Best episode this season. I think it could serve as a series finale but I'm cautiously optimistic now about a season five to wrap the show up.
HRG, Claire, Peter, Sylar, Parkman, and Angela Petrelli are the only characters on the show I have any interest in (well *maybe* Hiro too if written decently) and this episode managed to feature all but one with good storylines all around.
I'm oh so glad to see the last of Samuel and the lame carnival. A 22-24 episode full season five could end the show right and turn it around if the writing lives up to this episode.
I like the Hero/Anti-Hero Sylar and his dynamic with Peter as allies. I do wish for a nice Peter/Sylar showdown though with no budget spared. ^_^
HRG, Claire, Peter, Sylar, Parkman, and Angela Petrelli are the only characters on the show I have any interest in (well *maybe* Hiro too if written decently) and this episode managed to feature all but one with good storylines all around.
I'm oh so glad to see the last of Samuel and the lame carnival. A 22-24 episode full season five could end the show right and turn it around if the writing lives up to this episode.
I like the Hero/Anti-Hero Sylar and his dynamic with Peter as allies. I do wish for a nice Peter/Sylar showdown though with no budget spared. ^_^
Sounds like I didn't miss much. It certainly seems that unlike season one where they needed every precious hour to push the story forward like there was no tomorrow this massive season long volume was quite anemic and aimless.
I know some found Samuel a badass villian but he didn't impress me much at all.
And based on the lack of a mention of Samuel opening up the ground in NYC in the various high points about this episode that posters have listed I guess we didn't get to see Isaac's painting on his studio floor or Hiro's visit to the future Japan in season 3 come to pass. I thought one of the few highlights this season was the suggestion that Samuel's terrakinesis was the source of those horrific visions of disaster which nicely spanned the series in season 1 and 3.
It won't surprise me if NBC renews Heroes but I won't be watching it. I just don't care as evidenced by me not even bothering to watch what might be its very last episode.
I know some found Samuel a badass villian but he didn't impress me much at all.
And based on the lack of a mention of Samuel opening up the ground in NYC in the various high points about this episode that posters have listed I guess we didn't get to see Isaac's painting on his studio floor or Hiro's visit to the future Japan in season 3 come to pass. I thought one of the few highlights this season was the suggestion that Samuel's terrakinesis was the source of those horrific visions of disaster which nicely spanned the series in season 1 and 3.
It won't surprise me if NBC renews Heroes but I won't be watching it. I just don't care as evidenced by me not even bothering to watch what might be its very last episode.
Well, well! That didn't completely suck! If this is indeed the end and Heroes isn't picked up for a fifth season, then that wasn't a bad way to go out. Even the Charlie storyline, which was a pain in the ass most of the time, was handled tastefully. I was taken by surprise at first that Samuel wasn't outright killed off by anyone, but the fate he did receive was befitting of a man with his insecurities. Either way, at least we don't have to hear him speechifying anymore.
Very nice! At least the ending was very well planned for the uncertain future. It all came full circle if this is the end, but if not, they have an interesting way of going for next season. But this has to be the end. Write the show like it's done, go all out. And have the final Sylar/Peter show down that they've been talking up since the first season.
I also really liked how the Hiro storyline wrapped up. Everyone complains that he hasn't learned anything and that he's still portrayed as too child-like. I thought it was very well done how he couldn't get his way this time. He had to let her go, but on top of that he saved her. He helped her learn how to love when she had given up on life, he made a deal with the devil to cure her blood clot and because of that she was able to have a life and have a family, something she never thought she'd be able to do. I wish she had told Hiro that she had been able to take her trip around the world at some point. That would have been a nice touch. I just hope that Hiro shows perminant growth.
I also really liked how the Hiro storyline wrapped up. Everyone complains that he hasn't learned anything and that he's still portrayed as too child-like. I thought it was very well done how he couldn't get his way this time. He had to let her go, but on top of that he saved her. He helped her learn how to love when she had given up on life, he made a deal with the devil to cure her blood clot and because of that she was able to have a life and have a family, something she never thought she'd be able to do. I wish she had told Hiro that she had been able to take her trip around the world at some point. That would have been a nice touch. I just hope that Hiro shows perminant growth.
This was the best episode of a disappointing season. The only thing I can say about this season that was consistently good was Robert Knepper. I liked that Samuel was defeated because his people turned their backs on him. Hiro's story with Charlie had a fitting ending. I think this was the only season finale with no one getting killed. I think it's still weird seeing Sylar be a good guy.
Claire jumping off the ferris wheel while being filmed was a nice call back to season one.
Claire jumping off the ferris wheel while being filmed was a nice call back to season one.
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Well for Heroes (lately) this was actually good (meaning to the rest of the universe just average). But ending with Claire attempt to end her own life to prove she can't die is a very nice bookend if the show (and it should) ends.
Really the only thing that I miss (if this is the end) is that from very early the show has really hinted at a Peter versus Sylar battle royale. And well we have had a few short flashes of a future battle in an alternate universe and thats about it.
But realistically after the shows rapid and huge decline in viewership, the show will never have a budget (like it used to) to be able to show what we want to see so perhaps its best to let that ship sail.
Really the only thing that I miss (if this is the end) is that from very early the show has really hinted at a Peter versus Sylar battle royale. And well we have had a few short flashes of a future battle in an alternate universe and thats about it.
But realistically after the shows rapid and huge decline in viewership, the show will never have a budget (like it used to) to be able to show what we want to see so perhaps its best to let that ship sail.
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