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How could they have made this a better show?

Absolutely no Temporal Cold War bullshit. Not one bit of it. this show's premise so didn't need a gimmick. And if there was some way that the people behind Season 4 had been working on the series from the beginning, that wouldn't have hurt, either. Also, the series should have led directly in it's climax/finale to the Romulan War and/or the founding of the UFP. riker and Deanna Troi would never appear in the series in a perfect world. And for god's sake, give poor Mayweather a personality! Or some occasional dialogue at least.
 
No, I think the TCW could have been the season 4 springboard into the Romulan War of the last 3 seasons.

Interesting idea, but brought up at a time where all the fans were tuning in to see how cool the TOS prequel idea was... and left disappointed.

Those who tuned back in during season 4 finally saw some of that, too little too late.
 
I still say avoid the Romulan War entirely, and set the show earlier than the 2150s. The 2120s, or the 2110s even. Maybe the 2130s.
 
* No Temporal Cold War (It's a good idea, but NOT for a prequel series.)
* Babel One/United/The Aenar should have been the first three episodes. (Or maybe The Forge/Awakening/Kir'Shara)
* Replace Mayweather with Shran as a regular cast member.
* Much more Federation-building storylines.
* More subtle references to the other four series. (Season Four's references to TOS were excellent, but where were the ones to TNG, DS9, and VOY?)
* Treat the Trip/T'Pol storyline seriously. No "Will They/Won't They" bullshit. This isn't "Twilight" or "Friends." This is Star Trek.
* ABSOLUTELY NO TATV!
 
Go with B&B's original idea and make at least part of the early first season about Enterprise's final stages of construction and Captain Archer assembling his command crew, while laying some of the foundations with the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites, as well as Terra Prime. Turn some of the focus away from the TOS-style Big Three and make the show more of an ensemble like TNG, VOY, and DS9.

Archer should have a real reason to hate the Vulcans. Make Henry Archer a civilian scientist who was testing a prototype warp engine, which went horribly wrong. The small science vessel he was on was destroyed. A nearby Vulcan ship might have been able to save the crew, but they decided not to do it because the ruptured warp core's explosion would have destroyed both ships. Risking hundreds of lives for less than a dozen would not have been logical.

Trip is a native of Mobile, Alabama, who decided to become an engineer when he was a kid, after fixing a busted engine on his father's boat during a fishing trip in the Gulf of Mexico. He should also be a little bit older than he was in the show, closer in age to Archer, with whom he became best friends after they met while working on the Warp Five project.

T'Pol was one of the first Vulcans to be born on Earth, and spent much of her youth in the Vulcan compound in Sausalito, California. This has given her a better understanding of human society, and is a major reason for her being assigned to Enterprise as an observer while the ship is returning Klaang to Qo'noS (which is about a month away, not two days). During an attack by the Orion Syndicate (working as agents of the Romulans to destabilize local space), the Enterprise's science officer is killed, and T'Pol is forced to take over. After the mission, Starfleet is pressured by the Vulcan High Command into keeping T'Pol in that position. Though her growing up on Earth has made her somewhat familiar with humanity, it has made her more ignorant of her own Vulcan heritage, which would be explored and developed over the course of the show.

Make Malcolm Reed an undercover Section 31 operative, assigned by the Section to spy on Enterprise's mission, along with whatever alien races (and technology) it might come into contact with, and prevent Enterprise from retaining any alien technology that could potentially harm humanity and Earth. He would also be a Major in the United Earth Marines (descended primarily from the Royal Marines and U.S. Marine Corps), and chief of Enterprise's security department, which is a Marine detachment.

Make Phlox a human, Doctor Philip Knox, a retired Starfleet corpsman (and veteran of the Kzinti Wars) who became a doctor and gained invaluable knowledge of alien medicine and physiology (as well as several eccentricities) during his years with the Interspecies Medical Exchange.

Revert Ensign Travis Mayweather to Lieutenant Joseph Mayweather, a lifelong Boomer who's seen more alien worlds than the rest of Enterprise's human crew combined (with the exception of the well-traveled Doctor Knox). Make him a man jaded toward space travel and meeting new aliens, who loves playing pranks on his less experienced crewmates, and seems to know many "interstellar shortcuts" that get Enterprise to her destinations faster than some of the routes on Earth and Vulcan's star charts.

Make Hoshi Sato the descendant of one of the Augment warlords who threatened the world during the Eugenics Wars. Her physical and mental abilities are not as superhuman as a full-blooded Augment's, but they're still well above the human norm, especially her mental capacity and linguistics skills. As the Enterprise's communications officer, she is also excellent with mathematics and computer programming, and almost got busted out of Starfleet for hacking a major Tellarite security mainframe (on a dare).

No Temporal Cold War. Replace the Suliban with the Orions. Turn the Xindi into the Kzinti, who were defeated and disarmed by humans during a series of wars in the 2110s and 2120s (basically the Carthage to Earth's Rome in an interstellar version of the Punic Wars). Have the perpetrators be a terrorist splinter group who seek to redeem the Kzinti people and avenge their humiliation at the hands of humanity. Make them pawns of the Romulans, who promise to help the Kzinti regain their status as a major power if the rogues help them. The first Kzinti weapon was a prototype that malfunctioned after only eight seconds of operation, destroying only a strip of land from Mississippi to Colombia, instead of much of the planet. Starfleet retrieves data from the wreckage leading to the Delphic Expanse, a lawless and largely unexplored region of space (no weird anomalies, since there are no Sphere Builders). The Enterprise heads off to track down the rogue Kzinti before they can build a new weapon.

Terra Prime would be introduced early on, though like in ENT they wouldn't reach prominence until the aftermath of the Kzinti attack. Have there be some sort of secessionist movement spreading through various human colonies, such as Mars and Alpha Centauri, headed by Terra Prime, who claim that Earth can barely defend itself, and would betray the colonies--human colonies--to aliens in exchange for its own safety.

There should be less of a focus on meeting new races and more of a focus on developing established, but little-known species like the Andorians and Tellarites (partially done in ENT, but not enough, especially the Tellarites).

I agree with ALL of this. It would be up there with DS9 as my favourite series, if it had made all these changes.
 
Though, there is still the problem that TOS never mentioned ANY Heroic captains or crews in the past and nobody named Archer.
 
Yes, that too...

And naturally, TOS' own inconsistency with itself would only cause problems for a prequel that's supposed to be in that same past. The whole "Atomic weapons", "no visual communications", "Earth-Romulan War" (why aren't the other aliens mentioned?) and other stuff.

NuTrek had it right, when wanting a show to be set before TOS just restart the whole universe instead of trying to make heads or tails of what TOS kept contradicting itself on.
 
* More subtle references to the other four series. (Season Four's references to TOS were excellent, but where were the ones to TNG, DS9, and VOY?)
Section 31.

And didn't they do a TNG/VOY reference already in season 2 with the Borg appearance?

Not to mention the Ferengis... oh wait... you said good references?
 
* More subtle references to the other four series. (Season Four's references to TOS were excellent, but where were the ones to TNG, DS9, and VOY?)
Section 31.

And didn't they do a TNG/VOY reference already in season 2 with the Borg appearance?

Not to mention the Ferengis... oh wait... you said good references?

I guess I misspoke myself. I wanted MORE references. I loved how they re-introduced Section 31. I didn't even mind the Borg episode.

Though, you are right about the Ferengi appearance. What were they thinking?
 
I love the ideas so far. orions, Kzinti etc. Awesome.

I think ENT should have been very much like Firefly. Maybe minus the robbery and western thing. Plus a little Alien thrown in.

- Very few spacefaring aliens (maybe 4 or 5). All human crew + one Vulcan or Tellarite. Mostly deals with Vulcans, Tellarites, Humans and their colonies. Turns out Vulcan and Earth are inside a little populates part of the Milky Way.
There coulkd still be many alien stories, but mostly dealing with more "primitive" Aliens on planets.
- sleeper ships still in use
- Starfleet/Earth alliance are the bad guys of the series. There was the United Earth once, but it's been defeated and pushed back to some colonies (Mars, Alpha Centauri, Vega)- The "browncoats"
- 40 years after Cochrane's flight. Cochrane builds his own ship with the help of rogue Vulcans and Tellarites, hates Starfleet and the Military.
Hires civilian space boomers and rogues to man his UESPA ship which has a higher speed than both Vulcan and Earth ships.
- Humans before that have been stuck at Warp 3, Vulcans at Warp 4. Cochrane's ship is 50 times faster than that.
- Earth Alliance has abolished hunger, war on Earth, but at the price of establishing an autoritarian, imperialist regime. Terraforms planets and drops people there.
Vulcans support their policies, but have their own secret agenda.
- Romulans.
- Section 31 (Blue Gloves dudes) play an important part.
- weird, sarcastic human doctor/science officer. Like Bilbo in Alien combined with early EMH/House/Bones
- Captain is exactly like Mal, veteran of the first Mars uprising, hates the EA/Starfleet guys
- Ancestor of Picard is part of the crew- will become the Martian leader.
- Mayweather is like Wash
- Reed is like Jayne
- Hoshi is like Inara
 
There should not have been Suliban or time-travelers and such and should have stuck with Andorians/Vulcans/Klingons and the main species we saw as a big part of the TOS era. Sure, you would get the minor appearences of other species, new and old, but the main focus of the show would always bring us back to Andorians/Vulcans/Klingons and such.

Every time I see one of the ultra-cool Andorian episodes, or Klingons, I can't help but think of how much cooler the show could've been. Not that it was bad- I did like it. But I think it would've been way better.

Also: X that ridiculous, loathsome, abomination of a theme song.
 
- Starfleet/Earth alliance are the bad guys of the series. There was the United Earth once, but it's been defeated and pushed back to some colonies (Mars, Alpha Centauri, Vega)- The "browncoats"
- 40 years after Cochrane's flight. Cochrane builds his own ship with the help of rogue Vulcans and Tellarites, hates Starfleet and the Military.
Hires civilian space boomers and rogues to man his UESPA ship which has a higher speed than both Vulcan and Earth ships.
- Humans before that have been stuck at Warp 3, Vulcans at Warp 4. Cochrane's ship is 50 times faster than that.
- Earth Alliance has abolished hunger, war on Earth, but at the price of establishing an autoritarian, imperialist regime. Terraforms planets and drops people there.
Vulcans support their policies, but have their own secret agenda.
- Captain is exactly like Mal, veteran of the first Mars uprising, hates the EA/Starfleet guys
That could only happen if the entire show was set in an AU.
 
That could only happen if the entire show was set in an AU.

Why?
I can sure see how making Starfleet the bad guys would need some creative writing, as that organization, as we know, turns out to become the righteous Federation fleet and the good guys later on.
But starfleet could have been the original UE organization, before the EA defeated them and took that name for themselves (for a while).
Like The SW clone army in a way.
 
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I agree with most of Skywalker's post re: revisions, but I don't think it would have worked if the first season was set in spacedock, Archer putting command crew together, ship being finished and shakedown tests, etc.

The first episode needed to see the launch of the ship and story 1 into the unknown. That's one thing I really think Broken Bow did correctly.

Don't get me wrong I do find all of that very interesting, as well as the political intrigue the Andorians, Tellarites, Klingons and Vulcans (and Romulans). But didn't we get that in S4?

I'm worried that I'm starting to sound like a broken record. But many posts lament the lack of "local" political intrigue that took place in ENT... it was nearly the entirety of the fourth season!
 
I love the ideas so far. orions, Kzinti etc. Awesome.

I think ENT should have been very much like Firefly. Maybe minus the robbery and western thing. Plus a little Alien thrown in.

- Very few spacefaring aliens (maybe 4 or 5). All human crew + one Vulcan or Tellarite. Mostly deals with Vulcans, Tellarites, Humans and their colonies. Turns out Vulcan and Earth are inside a little populates part of the Milky Way.
There coulkd still be many alien stories, but mostly dealing with more "primitive" Aliens on planets.
- sleeper ships still in use
- Starfleet/Earth alliance are the bad guys of the series. There was the United Earth once, but it's been defeated and pushed back to some colonies (Mars, Alpha Centauri, Vega)- The "browncoats"
- 40 years after Cochrane's flight. Cochrane builds his own ship with the help of rogue Vulcans and Tellarites, hates Starfleet and the Military.
Hires civilian space boomers and rogues to man his UESPA ship which has a higher speed than both Vulcan and Earth ships.
- Humans before that have been stuck at Warp 3, Vulcans at Warp 4. Cochrane's ship is 50 times faster than that.
- Earth Alliance has abolished hunger, war on Earth, but at the price of establishing an autoritarian, imperialist regime. Terraforms planets and drops people there.
Vulcans support their policies, but have their own secret agenda.
- Romulans.
- Section 31 (Blue Gloves dudes) play an important part.
- weird, sarcastic human doctor/science officer. Like Bilbo in Alien combined with early EMH/House/Bones
- Captain is exactly like Mal, veteran of the first Mars uprising, hates the EA/Starfleet guys
- Ancestor of Picard is part of the crew- will become the Martian leader.
- Mayweather is like Wash
- Reed is like Jayne
- Hoshi is like Inara

I'm sorry, but what?!

I recently discovered Firefly, and love it to pieces, but Enterprise = Firefly?! NO NO NO NO.

They are separate entities, leave it that way.

Starfleet/the Federation is not the Alliance, and I don't see how turning Archer into Mal, and making our crew Browncoats, could possibly be a prequel to the other 4 series - all other series are essentially the stories of "Alliance ships".

The "Federation" (Alliance) would have to capture or destroy "Enterprise" (Serenity) for the rest of the series to make sense, and then you're essentially saying that the Federation are BAD GUYS - and yet they've been the Big Damn Heroes for the past 4 series.
 
Don't get me wrong I do find all of that very interesting, as well as the political intrigue the Andorians, Tellarites, Klingons and Vulcans (and Romulans). But didn't we get that in S4?

I'm worried that I'm starting to sound like a broken record. But many posts lament the lack of "local" political intrigue that took place in ENT... it was nearly the entirety of the fourth season!

Season 4 is what ALL of Enterprise should have been, which is our point. There were 3 seasons of sub-par, Suliban, TCW, Xindi filled mediocrity before we got to the gem of a fourth season.

If Season 4 was Season 1, and the rest of the show continue on in the same way, maybe we'd still be watching it today.
 
Firstly, I am going to say that I love this show, and yes I can agree that it had it's problems and could have used improvement, but it definitely wasn't the train wreak that some people make it out to be. Seriously, some things that people are up in arms over are just so retarded to take issue with, that it's mind boggling.

One thing that I'd probably change (albiet reluctantly), because so many people seems to hate it (although I personally thought it fit). Likely, something similar to that video that came out a few years ago with Bakula doing the "Space, the final frontier..." but instead of that particular set of lines (because whether or not I kept the ship name, something a little different should have been used), I'd probably have something a little more of Earth's initial look into the diplomatic field of the galaxy or something. In short, something more about how it is the crew, but that it's a focus on the look into the foray of the galaxy and the things to come? Sounds better in my mind then when I try to write it.

The pilot wouldn't have had Klingon first contact, I wasn't opposed to Klingons being in the series, but being able to go from Earth to the homeworld in 80 hours? Bah.

The first couple of seasons (2-3) would have been more like "The Andorian Incident" and season 4, first contacts with races we'll come to know in the future series, with some mini arcs and hints towards the Federation, other races and the Romulan War.

The ship's design probably would have changed, I liked the look of the hull, things behind panels, etc.. but something a little bit more to what Intrepid was might have came out better. Also, other Earth ships would have different types of designs, show that humanity hasn't quite figured out it's 'theme' in the designs, many look close to the saucer/engineering/nacelle look that we're used to, but not quite. An interesting subplot to reference to, might be Trip being in contact with Earth's ship designers, him sending his notes back and forth on the main ships performance, where the flaws in design are, etc...

I would have kept the weapons a bit more towards what was seen in the pilot, the primary ship weapons being the plasma canons, and spatial torpedoes, with the sidearms being the EM-33's (but it's my understanding the Studio insisted on more 'familiar' weapons...bah).

Going back to the seasonal stories, the first two to three seasons would have been semi stand alones, with some episodes being as such, with others being set up. Likely, I'd have shown something where the series was merging (slowly) into an arc or something, where it was doing so at a pace so viewers could keep up, and be in full effect (more or less) by the end of season three, so that things have begun for season four (instead of an awkward sudden cliff hanger start up and then go from there). Not quite sure what the plot would be, it all depends on the dating of the series itself. Perhaps somewhere into the Romulan war, but that might be a bit much, considering DS9's war. I just know I'd like to see some sort of an arc somewhere, and done in such a way that it's a pay off for tuning in (and paying attention) to the first few seasons.

I personally like Enterprise as a name, but I can agree its probably pushing it, what I'd use, I have no idea. Something that somewhat matches the series and intentions behind the ship, yet feel almost like they plucked the name out of a hat (I mean, Voyager happens to be the name of a ship on a long voyage home?)

Goes without saying that Hoshi and Mayweather would get an expansion into the series. I might keep Hoshi somewhat the same, but so wimpy maybe, but a little more...unseasoned. Then, a part of her relationship with Mayweather is him taking her under his wing, to get her seasoned, help her with her space legs, maybe. Just to show their relationships and perhaps why he tends to play jokes on her, maybe he discovered her enjoying a joke or somethign makes her less nervous.

I'd also have some more recurring characters, IMO it's kinda fun to see the adventures through the eyes of underlings. Random faces every episode, especially if the ship is in deep space, is annoying.
 
Starfleet/the Federation is not the Alliance, and I don't see how turning Archer into Mal, and making our crew Browncoats, could possibly be a prequel to the other 4 series - all other series are essentially the stories of "Alliance ships".

The "Federation" (Alliance) would have to capture or destroy "Enterprise" (Serenity) for the rest of the series to make sense, and then you're essentially saying that the Federation are BAD GUYS - and yet they've been the Big Damn Heroes for the past 4 series.

Yeah. I just think that 150 years before Kirk, the Starfleet universe might look very different.
Of course, Evil SF couldn't be *quite* as brutal and fanaticised as the Alliance guys.
And of course, the baddies could have another name like "United Earth fleet", and Cochrane and his browncoat friends could use the (pre-"Alliance"?) Starfleet name which would solve that problem ("Evil Starfleet"vs "Good Starfleet" sorta).

Just saying they could have made a "Star Trek:Firefly", because 100-150 years difference to Kirk plus a rather undefined Star Trek history for that period could have made lot of stuff possible.
I liked the "different, Vulcans" on ENT. Would have liked a "different, Earth" too.
 
Starfleet/the Federation is not the Alliance, and I don't see how turning Archer into Mal, and making our crew Browncoats, could possibly be a prequel to the other 4 series - all other series are essentially the stories of "Alliance ships".

The "Federation" (Alliance) would have to capture or destroy "Enterprise" (Serenity) for the rest of the series to make sense, and then you're essentially saying that the Federation are BAD GUYS - and yet they've been the Big Damn Heroes for the past 4 series.

Yeah. I just think that 150 years before Kirk, the Starfleet universe might look very different.
Of course, Evil SF couldn't be *quite* as brutal and fanaticised as the Alliance guys.
And of course, the baddies could have another name like "United Earth fleet", and Cochrane and his browncoat friends could use the (pre-"Alliance"?) Starfleet name which would solve that problem ("Evil Starfleet"vs "Good Starfleet" sorta).

Just saying they could have made a "Star Trek:Firefly", because 100-150 years difference to Kirk plus a rather undefined Star Trek history for that period could have made lot of stuff possible.
I liked the "different, Vulcans" on ENT. Would have liked a "different, Earth" too.

Maybe not so much as a "Star Trek: Firefly" (First Contact said Humans in this era were pretty peaceful with one another), but perhaps Starfleet is more military, rather then exploratory for United Earth. This could explain a somewhat more weaponized approach to certain things, such as the MACOs or Reed, or the fact their weapons seemingly have only one or two settings (maybe a couple more), but making Humans overall the bad guys, defeats the purpose behind this era being about new beginnings. Maybe some sort of extremist group though, a little bit more of a presence and a threat from Terra Prime.
 
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