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How could they have made this a better show?

ReadyAndWilling

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This had so much potential, but the first two seasons really killed it, IMO.

If it was up to me I would have put Season 4 as Season 1. Season 3 as Season 2 and take, I dunno, take the best 10 episodes from S1 and S2, like that episode where they encounter the aliens that try to destroy the ship and playback Archer's video as their only form of communication, and then slowly progress Season 3 into the Romulan War and build the whole show around it; the same way DS9 used the Dominion War, but on a more epic scale, the same way Babylon5 did their whole show.
 
This had so much potential, but the first two seasons really killed it, IMO.

If it was up to me I would have put Season 4 as Season 1. Season 3 as Season 2 and take, I dunno, take the best 10 episodes from S1 and S2, like that episode where they encounter the aliens that try to destroy the ship and playback Archer's video as their only form of communication, and then slowly progress Season 3 into the Romulan War and build the whole show around it; the same way DS9 used the Dominion War, but on a more epic scale, the same way Babylon5 did their whole show.

The show was following the normal Trek pattern IMO not really geeting good till the 3rd or 4th season.
 
I agree that the show should have started in a similar style to Season 4; get to know local space, stabilise the region and focus on the beginnings of the UFP.
I also wouldn't have bothered with TCW because that went nowhere.

Also, this may appear controversial for some members here, but I thought the show would have been better if the cast was actually treated as an ensemble, rather than trying to emulate "The Big Three" from TOS with Archer, T'Pol and Trip.

All this is IMO of course. ;)
 
No VOY may have helped ENT more than anything. There was so much ST on TV that people were raising their standards and getting picky about what they watch. The writers and producers were not.
 
I'm a huge TOS fan, but I'm not convinced season 4 was "the awesomest." In many respects, I like season 3 best. The characters developed, the storyline was easy to follow and the characters truly seemed to go where no one had gone before.

Things I would change:
* Trip/T'Pol. In my opinion, it really hurt Trip's character and made T'Pol less sympathetic. It was also painful to watch in most of season 4.
* A few things about particular episodes, like Bound. For example, the Enterprise chicks should've saved the day.
* More Shran.
* Better tie up for Temporal Cold War. Storm Front I and II were dumb.
* More seasons. :)
 
Drop the TCW

If Archer is going to have issues with Vulcans, then show us why. And I don't want some bull**** reason like "the Vulcans kept my daddy from succeeding by refusing to give him a warp 5 engine design on a silver platter."

Enterprise has an all-human crew. And since space exploration is dangerous, Dr. Richard Phlox will have no miracle cures when crew members are badly hurt or gravely ill.

T'Pol has little experience with humans when she is assigned to the Broken Bow mission as an observer/adviser. The crew is not happy. At the end of the mission, Archer and T'Pol report to their respective superiors. The Vulcans, citing T'Pol's role in making the mission a success, prevail upon SFC to leave keep her aboard Enterprise (so she can spy on the crew). T'Pol balks, but follows orders. Over the course of the first season she gradually develops an affinity for the humans.

Malcolm Reed is a Section 31 plant on Enterprise. His cover is tactical officer. His unofficial assignment is spying on any species Enterprise encounters. S31 is picking up indications of a growing threat to the region and want better intelligence than what they're getting from the Orions and Rigellians.

Episodes I would keep:
Broken Bow: (replace Suliban with Orions)
The Andorian Incident
Breaking the Ice
Fortunate Son (drop Cardassians; replace with Rigellians)
Silent Enemy
Shadows of P'Jem
Shuttlepod One
Vox Sola
Fallen Hero
Desert Crossing (drop Suliban references)
Minefield
Dead Stop
Singularity
The Catwalk
Cease Fire
Judgment
Cogenitor
Regeneration
First Flight
Horizon
Affliction
Divergence
The Forge
Awakening
Kir'Shara
Observer Effect
Borderland
Cold Station 12
The Augments
Babel One
United
The Aenar
In a Mirror Darkly I
In a Mirror Darkly II
Similitude (revise Xindi references)
North Star
Demons
Terra Prime
These Are The Voyages (hey, we gotta have something to bitch about!

Storylines I would add:
Lost (Mayweather's family is killed during an attack on a colony where they are delivering supplies)
The Boomers (Mayweather goes AWOL to join his fellow boomers in hunting down his family's killers)

more TBA
 
Seasons one and two combined together, season 4 as seasons 2 and 3 and leave the Xindi arc for the last season.

That might have given them momentum to last 7 years.

And replace the opening music.
 
Go with B&B's original idea and make at least part of the early first season about Enterprise's final stages of construction and Captain Archer assembling his command crew, while laying some of the foundations with the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites, as well as Terra Prime. Turn some of the focus away from the TOS-style Big Three and make the show more of an ensemble like TNG, VOY, and DS9.

Archer should have a real reason to hate the Vulcans. Make Henry Archer a civilian scientist who was testing a prototype warp engine, which went horribly wrong. The small science vessel he was on was destroyed. A nearby Vulcan ship might have been able to save the crew, but they decided not to do it because the ruptured warp core's explosion would have destroyed both ships. Risking hundreds of lives for less than a dozen would not have been logical.

Trip is a native of Mobile, Alabama, who decided to become an engineer when he was a kid, after fixing a busted engine on his father's boat during a fishing trip in the Gulf of Mexico. He should also be a little bit older than he was in the show, closer in age to Archer, with whom he became best friends after they met while working on the Warp Five project.

T'Pol was one of the first Vulcans to be born on Earth, and spent much of her youth in the Vulcan compound in Sausalito, California. This has given her a better understanding of human society, and is a major reason for her being assigned to Enterprise as an observer while the ship is returning Klaang to Qo'noS (which is about a month away, not two days). During an attack by the Orion Syndicate (working as agents of the Romulans to destabilize local space), the Enterprise's science officer is killed, and T'Pol is forced to take over. After the mission, Starfleet is pressured by the Vulcan High Command into keeping T'Pol in that position. Though her growing up on Earth has made her somewhat familiar with humanity, it has made her more ignorant of her own Vulcan heritage, which would be explored and developed over the course of the show.

Make Malcolm Reed an undercover Section 31 operative, assigned by the Section to spy on Enterprise's mission, along with whatever alien races (and technology) it might come into contact with, and prevent Enterprise from retaining any alien technology that could potentially harm humanity and Earth. He would also be a Major in the United Earth Marines (descended primarily from the Royal Marines and U.S. Marine Corps), and chief of Enterprise's security department, which is a Marine detachment.

Make Phlox a human, Doctor Philip Knox, a retired Starfleet corpsman (and veteran of the Kzinti Wars) who became a doctor and gained invaluable knowledge of alien medicine and physiology (as well as several eccentricities) during his years with the Interspecies Medical Exchange.

Revert Ensign Travis Mayweather to Lieutenant Joseph Mayweather, a lifelong Boomer who's seen more alien worlds than the rest of Enterprise's human crew combined (with the exception of the well-traveled Doctor Knox). Make him a man jaded toward space travel and meeting new aliens, who loves playing pranks on his less experienced crewmates, and seems to know many "interstellar shortcuts" that get Enterprise to her destinations faster than some of the routes on Earth and Vulcan's star charts.

Make Hoshi Sato the descendant of one of the Augment warlords who threatened the world during the Eugenics Wars. Her physical and mental abilities are not as superhuman as a full-blooded Augment's, but they're still well above the human norm, especially her mental capacity and linguistics skills. As the Enterprise's communications officer, she is also excellent with mathematics and computer programming, and almost got busted out of Starfleet for hacking a major Tellarite security mainframe (on a dare).

No Temporal Cold War. Replace the Suliban with the Orions. Turn the Xindi into the Kzinti, who were defeated and disarmed by humans during a series of wars in the 2110s and 2120s (basically the Carthage to Earth's Rome in an interstellar version of the Punic Wars). Have the perpetrators be a terrorist splinter group who seek to redeem the Kzinti people and avenge their humiliation at the hands of humanity. Make them pawns of the Romulans, who promise to help the Kzinti regain their status as a major power if the rogues help them. The first Kzinti weapon was a prototype that malfunctioned after only eight seconds of operation, destroying only a strip of land from Mississippi to Colombia, instead of much of the planet. Starfleet retrieves data from the wreckage leading to the Delphic Expanse, a lawless and largely unexplored region of space (no weird anomalies, since there are no Sphere Builders). The Enterprise heads off to track down the rogue Kzinti before they can build a new weapon.

Terra Prime would be introduced early on, though like in ENT they wouldn't reach prominence until the aftermath of the Kzinti attack. Have there be some sort of secessionist movement spreading through various human colonies, such as Mars and Alpha Centauri, headed by Terra Prime, who claim that Earth can barely defend itself, and would betray the colonies--human colonies--to aliens in exchange for its own safety.

There should be less of a focus on meeting new races and more of a focus on developing established, but little-known species like the Andorians and Tellarites (partially done in ENT, but not enough, especially the Tellarites).
 
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I would have set it in the 2120 or 2130s, to avoid the Romulan War entirely and focus more on early relations between the humans and other Trek races.

No Kzinti, they just don't fit in the Trekverse and it makes no sense the Vulcans or Andorians didn't deal with them years ago.

Explain that the Vulcans used their pull to get funding cut off for Archer's fathers projects and basically ruined the guy. They've also been trying to do the same stuff to Archer but he persevered.

ENT's earlier episodes can deal with problems in the solar system itself, colonial problems and how they complain Earth is using too much money to build ENT's new Warp system and not enough for the local people in the system. Archer goes on a goodwill tour to settle issues, maybe handle some terrorists, etc. Meanwhile he assembles his crew from people from all over the system for when ENT is complete.

Or hell, if you HAVE to appease those moronic haters who complain about the name just call the ship "Endeavor" or "Cochrane" or something.

Weapons would be atomic-powered superlasers, railguns, micro-nuke torpedos. Most of the enemies early on would be more primitive human ships.

T'Pol is a Vulcan science liason who eventually is assigned as an observer. If ENT's early missions to the outer human colonies succeed then United Earth will begin building more and upgrading other vessels to bolster Earth's existing Defense Forces.

I'll think of more later.
 
Things I would change:
* Trip/T'Pol. In my opinion, it really hurt Trip's character and made T'Pol less sympathetic. It was also painful to watch in most of season 4.
* A few things about particular episodes, like Bound. For example, the Enterprise chicks should've saved the day.
* More Shran.
* Better tie up for Temporal Cold War. Storm Front I and II were dumb.
* More seasons. :)
I agree on everything you mentioned except Trip/T'Pol. I didn't dislike it. Temporal Cold War should either be removed or written in a better way. Also, replace the opening music with a one similar to VOY and DS9, more MU episodes, more references to the earlier shows (in the first three seasons), Vulcans more like they the ones in the earlier shows and no unrealistic linguistic abilities for Hoshi without the universal translator (unless it's explained).
 
The Vulcans in ENT were actually closer to the original portrayal than in the other shows. Spock himself was a rather unsympathetic guy earlier on, and the Vulcan society seen in "Amok Time" isn't all that friendly either.
 
Fortunate Son (drop Cardassians; replace with Rigellians)
What Cardassians? :confused: :cardie:

[Also, replace the opening music...
This. The opening song was so awful that it kept me from giving the show a chance for quite a while. The only thing that makes it bearable is the mute button - and, on DVD, fast forward option.

I agree that they should have removed TCW and started the S4 storylines much earlier, instead of doing all those dull and unoriginal recycled plots in the first 2 seasons (especially S2). I don't even think S1 was that bad, and it could have worked as a decent introduction to the show and characters, but they should have plunged right into the universe building and storyarcs about Vulcans, Andorians etc. immediately at the start of season 2, instead of ignoring all those plots. Then the Romulan war could have had a build-up in season 3 and started in season 4... or at least maybe the show would have had enough momentum to be granted season 5. I'm not sure where the Xindi arc would fit, I know it wasn't really necessary but I liked it, though it could have worked with some other alien threat.

Mayweather should have been more like the original concept for the character - a space-wise Boomer challenging Archer's naive views with a more cynical approach, instead of a wet behind the ears ensign.

The only thing that really bothered me about Trip/T'Pol is that, after laying some foundations for it early in season 1 ("Breaking the Ice") their dynamic was largely ignored until season 3, and the show seemed to be 'shipping' Archer/T'Pol throughout season 1 and 2. It was still going on in season 3, in the alternate reality of "Twilight". Trip/T'pol then seemed a bit sudden and rushed, and I just couldn't shake the impression that T'Pol had stronger feelings for Archer than for Trip, because that's what I got from the show. In "Twilight", she was even ready to reject her career and devote her entire life to taking care of him while he was constantly forgetting everything about her and everything else (that must not have been an easy thing to deal with) - that's much more than we ever saw her ready to sacrifice for Trip.
 
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Fortunate Son (drop Cardassians; replace with Rigellians)
What Cardassians? :confused: :cardie:
:alienblush: Ooooops. My mistake. Nausicans. I actually disliked this episode and so I haven't watched it since first run. I just included it in my list because I wanted to establish the boomers' role early on but I didn't want to use the Mayweather "Horizon" episode until later on.
 
How could they have made this a better show?

Let it go 7 seasons :lol: :bolian:

It would have been fantastic !!:cool:
 
It should've been retro as fuck, looking like a 50s sci-fi show to TOS 60s

Dude, that would have been mind blowing... sounds like an art project.

Oh my god. That would have been fantastic. Completely unrealistic, but a stylized triumph.

NXOner, is that you with Trip in your avatar??? Lucky you!!
 
It should've been retro as fuck, looking like a 50s sci-fi show to TOS 60s

Dude, that would have been mind blowing... sounds like an art project.

Oh my god. That would have been fantastic. Completely unrealistic, but a stylized triumph.

NXOner, is that you with Trip in your avatar??? Lucky you!!
And then they'd have an early 21st century flashback that would look like a silent movie.

Hmm... :vulcan:
 
It should've been retro as fuck, looking like a 50s sci-fi show to TOS 60s

Dude, that would have been mind blowing... sounds like an art project.

Oh my god. That would have been fantastic. Completely unrealistic, but a stylized triumph.
And then they'd have an early 21st century flashback that would look like a silent movie.


Hmm... :vulcan:

Yes! :guffaw: And then we'd see the 20th century as cave paintings. I like it!
 
I don't know what could have made it better, really... More seasons perhaps, and either replace Mayweather or give him something to do other than looking bewildered. Also, they could have wrapped up the Xindi story a bit sooner, it was becoming exhausting by the time they concluded it.

To be honest, I realize this is not a popular opinion, but I loved the fuck out of this show, and still do. Only thing I rate higher of the ST shows is TOS, and that's largely nostalgia. I found ENT more riveting to watch than even TNG, which itself got very good in the middle seasons.

And yes, I thought the opening theme was great and appropriate. I liked the fact that it wasn't another horribly pompous piece a la TNG, albeit not as strong as VOY's beautiful melody (and CGI; both of which were lost on a subpar series.). It took some time to grow on me, the opening theme, but once it did, it really stuck.
 
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