Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge?

[Elder Knight]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

"Give that Klingon a hand!"

(Crew applauds, as Kruge's grip fails and he plummets.)

 

[drychlick]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

i would not save him! i would have send Kruge to hell at the start

 

[EJA]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Personally, I've always felt that Kirk was perfectly damn right to detest the Klingons in TUC. They murdered his son in an unprovoked attack, spread slanderous lies about him, never apologised for any of this, and according to the TUC novelisation came damn close to killing Carol. What's there to like? I realise this makes me sound mean-spirited to some, but it is how I feel.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Personally, I've always felt that Kirk was perfectly damn right to detest the Klingons in TUC. They murdered his son in an unprovoked attack, spread slanderous lies about him, never apologised for any of this, and according to the TUC novelisation came damn close to killing Carol. What's there to like? I realise this makes me sound mean-spirited to some, but it is how I feel.

Is he right about hating ALL of the Klingons?

 

[Chrisisall]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Is he right about hating ALL of the Klingons?

Nope.

 

[Mistreaper]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

If it was my son he had killed, I would have killed that son of a bicth. But that's me and not Kirk.

 

[Search4]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

This is easy. Nope.

 

[QuasarVM]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

FRACK NO!!! I'd kicked him in the face a lot earlier!

I now return you to your regularly scheduled ignoring or loathing of QuasarVM.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

I'd have kicked him somewhere else.

 

[caisson2delta]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

I'd have helped him up, if he allowed it, then kicked him back off the ledge. Kruge got off easy as far as I'm concerned.

 

[SheliakBob]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

I wouldn't have even considered offering Kruge a hand, but then again, James T. Kirk is a much better man than I. That's why he's a Starship Captain and I have to eke out a living selling Horta porn to desperate geology students...

 

[I am not Spock]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Kirk offering help to Kruge felt like the new JJ film to me. In both films (TSFS and XI) Kirk offers assistance to a mortal enemy, they spit in his face, so he finishes them off.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Kirk offering help to Kruge felt like the new JJ film to me.

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

 

[Ssosmcin]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Taking a life is a big deal. If one were to take these posts anywhere close to seriously, then a lot of you seem to have no problems with the notion of killing someone. Removing the whole "you know what I'd do?" fantasy, I wonder how many really could go that far. Killing for revenge is not something I subscribe to. Self-defense, and/or protecting my family from harm, I could see, if that were the only way to stop the guy. If I could just kick his ass and immobilize him, I'd do that, but killing a man would stay with me forever. I don't even like putting my dog to sleep.

To actually answer the original post, I might not be heroic or honorable enough to give him a hand, but I wouldn't kick him off either. However, I could see myself standing there as he fell, not doing anything to stop it. Kind of bland for the climax of a film, though.

I do love the look on Shatner's face when Kruge grabs his leg and starts pulling him down. It's really one of "I can't believe this jackass." Kicking Kruge away was a left saving measure, so it doesn't color Kirk's character. What bugged me about the Abrams film, though, was that Kirk blowing Nero to hell was unnecessary. Nero was about to be crushed by the singularity anyway. Blowing him away was nasty overkill.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Taking a life is a big deal. If one were to take these posts anywhere close to seriously, then a lot of you seem to have no problems with the notion of killing someone. Removing the whole "you know what I'd do?" fantasy, I wonder how many really could go that far.

It's the Internet.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Taking a life is a big deal. If one were to take these posts anywhere close to seriously, then a lot of you seem to have no problems with the notion of killing someone. Removing the whole "you know what I'd do?" fantasy, I wonder how many really could go that far.

It's the Internet.

yes it is. I was just in a philosophical mood.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Kicking Kruge away was a left saving measure, so it doesn't color Kirk's character.

Agreed. Kruge would have dragged Kirk off that ledge if Kirk hadn't done something about it. Self defense is an absolute right.

What bugged me about the Abrams film, though, was that Kirk blowing Nero to hell was unnecessary. Nero was about to be crushed by the singularity anyway. Blowing him away was nasty overkill.

Couldn't take the chance that the Narada would emerge somewhere else and start this shit over again.

 

[startrekrcks]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

I really liked when Kirk said I have had enough of you very good classic. Kruge deserved it by the way.

 

[Search4]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

Getting real: if Kruge had done that to MY son, he'd be off the ledge in an instant.

 

[Caligula]

Re: Star Trek III: Would you have offered a hand to Kruge on the ledge

It's conceivable that, other than playing the dutiful role of Starfleet peacemaker, Kirk was also offering his hand to Kruge just so that... once Kruge was back to his feet... Kirk could then kill him with his own bare hands. As it was, he had to settle for his foot serving multiple impacts against Kruge's cranium.