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Like JJ's movie.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Hey, even decent sc-fi minded extrapolation is more welcome.
The Mike Minor stuff in TWOK has that, where the science isn't driving it, but there's a sensibility that feels in tune with the material, not one that is being superimposed on the material, which is the SW/ST mashup going on with Abrams. ILM's designs really hurt SFS, TVH and TUC for me, but some of that is more tolerable given that those designs were often budget related, whereas this thing had half the money in the world and coughed up horrible designs and even worse builds.
That the Abrams designers even mention the name Saarinen is offensive to me ... thank god nothing in the film really encroaches on that glorious territory.
I hear the broken record's still not fixed.
Because that idiotic film is still being cited as something worthwhile.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
No, more like most of you can't hush up and do your own damn thing, but complain about Star Trek 'till you're all blue in the face.
This is a lot of musing about how the future should look especially coming from a guy who voted for Bush, hates Obama, and hates socialized medicine-the very thing that a future society as seen in Star Trek would most likely have as a given for it's citizens.
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Shouldn't you be over in the ST XI forum, with all the other sycophants?
trevanian
Rear Admiral
No, more like most of you can't hush up and do your own damn thing, but complain about Star Trek 'till you're all blue in the face.
This musing about how the future should look especially coming from a guy who voted for Bush, hates Obama, and hates socialized medicine-the very thing that a future society as seen in Star Trek would most likely have as a given for it's citizens.
And I agree with his musing, even though I disagree utterly with all the things you just listed about him. And given that you initially went off on a post from THE GOD THING, a guy with taste and intelligence, it seems like you want to pick fights with folks you only occasionally know something about -- and when you don't know, you SAY you don't care. But in the case of April, what you know about him is fair game to dismiss him?
You're as hypocritical as the movie you keep gushing over ... which takes the names and the colors and as few of the trappings of TREK as possible, then tarts it up with megamoron level storytelling and cuts it Bourne style so nobody can see that staging a scene is beyond the maker's ken.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
They're jumping the fence more and more; I don't even go into TECH much anymore because of the gush factor, and they seem to be protected from well-deserved warnings in much the same fashion as in their home territory.
Every time I look in trek tech, all I can think of is that scene in braveheart, where one if his seconds in command asks him where he's going and he says "I'm going to pick a fight."
That and the phrase "canon be damned, full speed ahead!" also comes to mind.
Dusty Ayres, trevanian and Captain Robert April, you three can at least respect each other's opinions withou coming dangerously close to flaming. This is a friendly to cut it out.
I trust you're taking note of who went personal first....
It doesn't matter CRA. Once you go there, you are just as guilty... even if you didn't start it.
Does this mean Lucas will reissue The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar and a more interesting/coherent plot?
I'd be more concerned with who went functionally retarded first.
Now... to avoid a warning for flaming... I shan't name names... but... fuck it...
IT WAS YOU! Happy new year!
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Okay, but consider who did a haiti and resuscitated this long-beached zombie of a thread instead of starting a new one, and consider that post. Mainly just a snipe at a long gone poster, but even worse, it was just trying to mark territory by pouring gasoline.
I just want you guys on notice not to get personal. Whoever started it, you don't have to continue it by being personal back.
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Does this mean Lucas will reissue The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar and a more interesting/coherent plot?
Why should he? Jar-Jar is a part of the plot, and a necessary one; if you can't see that, that's your problem, not his.
That essay fails to prove that Jar-Jar is essential to the plot. Jar-Jar serves no necessary function in the story that couldn't have been filled by another character with only a few changes to dialog.Does this mean Lucas will reissue The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar and a more interesting/coherent plot?
Why should he? Jar-Jar is a part of the plot, and a necessary one; if you can't see that, that's your problem, not his.
I was recently given a copy of "The Phantom Edit" (a re-edited version of Ep. I with all that "extraneous" stuff with Jar Jar and Anakin excised), and, to be perfectly honest, it was boring as all hell.
I think a lot of the dumping on the SW prequels has more to do with the fact that we're not all ten years old anymore, like we were when the first movies came out. Line 'em all up, and Ep. I builds nicely to II, and III goes right into IV.
I think a lot of the dumping on the SW prequels has more to do with the fact that we're not all ten years old anymore, like we were when the first movies came out. Line 'em all up, and Ep. I builds nicely to II, and III goes right into IV.
That essay fails to prove that Jar-Jar is essential to the plot. Jar-Jar serves no necessary function in the story that couldn't have been filled by another character with only a few changes to dialog.Does this mean Lucas will reissue The Phantom Menace without Jar-Jar and a more interesting/coherent plot?
Why should he? Jar-Jar is a part of the plot, and a necessary one; if you can't see that, that's your problem, not his.
Well, this thread isn't about The Phantom Menace, but thanks, DS9Sega for pointing out the ineptitude of that essay to definitively point out how Jar-Jar is so freakin "important"...
The thing is, I think we really only needed one prequel to Star Wars and some kind of hybrid of Clone Wars and Episode III would have been fine...
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