Robert McCall TMP spockwalk sketches

[Maurice]

Myabe I'm not understanding your point here. I was pointing out to everyone how you can tell which end of the bridge you're looking at. The original shot got it right. The DE just messed it up.

Sorry, I was just venting my frustration with the DE and those responsible for it. Move along. Nothing to see here.

TGT

Oh, I realized I misread. I edited my response.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

I haven't been on stopmotionanimation.com forum for awhile, but I think Rocco still does the occasional on-glass matte shot for his own amusement in addition to digital ones for day-jobs.

Indeed, but I doubt that he would have had easy access to a 70mm matte camera with which to photograph them circa 2000 hence my reference to Photoshop.

TGT

 

[Psion]

Oh, and this is how San Francisco/Coruscant by the Bay is going to be presented in ST:XI:

It's uncannily like J.J. Abrams is a fellow resident of Russian Hill (and member of RHN) with identical concerns about highrise development turning SF into another Miami. No, seriously.

TGT

Are you quite certain we're looking at San Francisco here? It doesn't look especially hilly. Might this instead be the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in the foreground?

To be fair, I'm basing this on speculation that there may be no San Francisco by this part of the movie.

 

[trevanian]

Maybe this is New Orleans; be a nice indication that the city got rebuilt to some degree, though there certainly don't seem to be any bits of the old city left that I can spot.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

Are you quite certain we're looking at San Francisco here?

I'm certainly not, but you will forgive me for jumping to conclusions when seeing a suspension bridge in a Star Trek movie trailer.

It doesn't look especially hilly.

Concentrated clusters of tall buildings generally tend to obscure the topography upon which they are built.

Might this instead be the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in the foreground?

It most definitely could be, but why would those fugly Starfleet shuttles be departing from NYC?

TGT

 

[trevanian]

Totally offtopic, but going by your info TGT,

If Inge Posmyk is the married name of Inge Kjemtrup, I am insanely jealous of your current position and 'head'ing.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

If Inge Posmyk is the married name of Inge Kjemtrup, I am insanely jealous of your current position and 'head'ing.

I don't think so, at least judging by Google Image Search. Posmyk is a German news anchorette whom I happen to worship from afar, what with that restraint order and all.

TGT

 

[trevanian]

If Inge Posmyk is the married name of Inge Kjemtrup, I am insanely jealous of your current position and 'head'ing.

I don't think so, at least judging by Google Image Search. Posmyk is a German news anchorette whom I happen to worship from afar, what with that restraint order and all.

TGT

Okay then, the Inge I was thinking of must be pushing 50 now anyway. But she looked killer in a low cut halterdress in 1978 (the year TMP finally went into production for those who might think this is not relevant to a trek board), that's for damn sure.

 

[Data Holmes]

Click to see a slightly cleaned-up version of the unused shot TGT pointed us to.

Anyone notice that there is another white spire to the left of that tower, it's at the point of that green hill?

 

[GodThingFormerly]

Anyone notice that there is another white spire to the left of that tower, it's at the point of that green hill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coit_Tower

TGT

 

[Data Holmes]

Anyone notice that there is another white spire to the left of that tower, it's at the point of that green hill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coit_Tower

TGT

Ah. Ok.

the attention to detail is one of the things I love about TMP.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

the attention to detail is one of the things I love about TMP.

Both the Livingston and Roddenberry In Thy Image teleplays specified that the Golden Gate Bridge, the Transamerica Pyramid and Coit Tower were supposed to be the only identifiable structures remaining in 23rd century San Francisco, but the (uncredited) art director Harold Michelson hired to design the city also worked as an architectural illustrator for Skidmore, Owings and Merrill at the time, hence the cameo appearance of 345 California Center before it lost 100 feet of its proposed height.

TGT

 

[Maurice]

It's San Francisco. I just froze the 1080p trailer and the cables for the bridge definitely have a reddish-orange cast (muted because of the fog). There are certainly hills, AND the old pier seen in the lower right is standing now at Crissy Field, as is the little lagoon behind the trees. I just aped the view in Google Earth.

In fact, I just noticed that it looks like Coit Tower at the left edge of the frame.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

It's San Francisco.

*sigh*

So where Gene Roddenberry took aesthetic inspiration from the murals of Arthur F. Mathews, the architectural precepts of Paolo Soleri, and the idyllic society visualized in the center panel ("Ecclesia's Paradise") of Hieronymus Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delight triptych for his 23rd century city, J.J. Abrams took the Star Wars prequels for his. How.... unsurprising.

TGT

 

[Psion]

It's San Francisco. I just froze the 1080p trailer and the cables for the bridge definitely have a reddish-orange cast (muted because of the fog). There are certainly hills, AND the old pier seen in the lower right is standing now at Crissy Field, as is the little lagoon behind the trees. I just aped the view in Google Earth.

In fact, I just noticed that it looks like Coit Tower at the left edge of the frame.

Awww, crap. That means Dennis is right. Now I've gotta go back to the thread where we were arguing and concede another point. He's going to be insufferable now. Maybe he'll miss this thread and I can just lay low.

 

[trevanian]

It's San Francisco. I just froze the 1080p trailer and the cables for the bridge definitely have a reddish-orange cast (muted because of the fog). There are certainly hills, AND the old pier seen in the lower right is standing now at Crissy Field, as is the little lagoon behind the trees. I just aped the view in Google Earth.

In fact, I just noticed that it looks like Coit Tower at the left edge of the frame.

Awww, crap. That means Dennis is right. Now I've gotta go back to the thread where we were arguing and concede another point. He's going to be insufferable now. Maybe he'll miss this thread and I can just lay low.

Are you kidding? He has been EVERYwhere, usually dropping the same couple of typical lines into every thread and never being warned for snipes or trolling, with st-one and a couple others in tow. Must be strange to have a job that lets you post all day while doing whatever else it is you do to get paid.

I was strongly tempted to take a couple of ancient light-streaked photos I made at age 22 and post them as abramstrek leaks, just to see who would fawn over them (one is an AMT model dropped toward camera while eclipsing the noonday sun, the other is an extended in-motion shot of a xmas tree that looks amazingly close to the romulan spaced thingie.) To read some of these posts, you'd think 'vague and blurry' was the new standard for viewing.

 

[Psion]

Are you kidding? He has been EVERYwhere, usually dropping the same couple of typical lines into every thread and never being warned for snipes or trolling, with st-one and a couple others in tow. Must be strange to have a job that lets you post all day while doing whatever else it is you do to get paid.

I was strongly tempted to take a couple of ancient light-streaked photos I made at age 22 and post them as abramstrek leaks, just to see who would fawn over them (one is an AMT model dropped toward camera while eclipsing the noonday sun, the other is an extended in-motion shot of a xmas tree that looks amazingly close to the romulan spaced thingie.) To read some of these posts, you'd think 'vague and blurry' was the new standard for viewing.

Awww ... he's not so bad. I give him credit for the Trek-related things he's done. He has been unusually generous with the snark though, and he certainly doesn't seem to be very tolerant of any opinions critical of Trek XI. Maybe this is how he gets his jollies these days. [shrugs] We all go through phases. I try not to let it bother me, and hope he eventually realizes I'm treating him with respect. There are lots of posters around here who rub me the wrong way now and then, yet I still value their knowledge or opinon.

There are a few others, however, whom I'd happily invite to go bungie-jumping with a slightly long line.

 

[trevanian]

Are you kidding? He has been EVERYwhere, usually dropping the same couple of typical lines into every thread and never being warned for snipes or trolling, with st-one and a couple others in tow. Must be strange to have a job that lets you post all day while doing whatever else it is you do to get paid.

I was strongly tempted to take a couple of ancient light-streaked photos I made at age 22 and post them as abramstrek leaks, just to see who would fawn over them (one is an AMT model dropped toward camera while eclipsing the noonday sun, the other is an extended in-motion shot of a xmas tree that looks amazingly close to the romulan spaced thingie.) To read some of these posts, you'd think 'vague and blurry' was the new standard for viewing.

Awww ... he's not so bad. I give him credit for the Trek-related things he's done. He has been unusually generous with the snark though, and he certainly doesn't seem to be very tolerant of any opinions critical of Trek XI. Maybe this is how he gets his jollies these days. [shrugs]

To me, he is stuck in a time-loop, repeating the same little snippets he did when LIL ENTERPRISE was on, how the new vfx (like that silly cg library) are superior to traditional fx, or how Berman Knows Best (up to a point when continuing that line of thought started to seriously diminish his credibility, I guess, since during one of my absences it seems he took a much more middle of the road approach about the last two trek producers to depart.)

 

[cardinal biggles]

Guys, please knock it off with the talk about other posters.

 

[Psion]

Guys, please knock it off with the talk about other posters.

Awww, we were already done with all of that as far as I was concerned ... but if you really want to see something juicy, you should find the thread where we're talking about you!

By the way, do you like bungie-jumping?