Should the Bajorans have fought against the Dominion?
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you possibly thought wrong. wasn't the message of ds9 that noble values count for nothing, and the end justifies the means? there were certainly those in the federation who were delighted seeing bajor joining, another pawn that could be moved into the way of the dominion.
I think it would have been great if the Bajorans decided to attack the Dominion immediately after they started sending ships through the wormhole, and then the Dominion annihilated them and nuked the whole planet of Bajor too, despite the Sisko's best efforts to prevent it.
Yeesh...you guys need to separate, quick. 
Starfleet has encountered bogus gods so many times that I'd expect more skepticism. They might accept aliens who know the future, but that doesn't make them deities. If they're just another bunch of aliens, then that means they're on the same level as Cardassians, Klingons, etc - an alien culture that should be understood but not blindly trusted, because who knows what they're up to? Starfleet acted like they were required to take the Bajorans word for it that the Prophets must be trusted and would never do anything "bad."
It was obvious that the DS9 writers presented that as a coincidence, and gave the audience enough info for us to understand what the writers had in mind. But why should Starfleet accept it as a coincidence? The writers weren't showing Starfleet honchos the same Prophet-vision scenes that we were being treated to. If Starfleet is wrong, they've just turned a blind eye to an enormous threat right in their back yard.
If Starfleet thought the survival of the Federation were at risk, I'd expect them to do something about it, regardless of Bajor's jurisdiction. At the very least, they should have done more investigation of the Prophets - from what I saw, they did zip.Bajor isn't a Federation planet though. They really had no say. Sisko also admitted to Winn that the Federation couldn't protect Bajor. Would it have been really in the Federations best interest to have them in the war?
If the Prophets had forged an alliance with the Dominion then there really isn't a whole lot the Federation could have done. They had no say whatsoever in anything that involved Bajor.Temis the Red-Nosed Vorta wrote:
Didn't it occur to anyone in Starfleet that the Prophets might have forged a secret alliance with the Dominion? Starfleet certainly couldn't be buying the notion that the Prophets are genuinely gods. I would have liked to see at least some push-back on Sisko's actions, even if ultimately Starfleet couldn't do much to override their rogue space station commander who's gotten in good with the natives.
Hey, where was S31 in all this? They were willing to commit genocide to win the war. Why weren't they investigating the Prophets to whatever extent they could have?
Ah, but if they'd tried - Bajor would have pitched a fit. In the end, Sisko would keep his command because Starfleet couldn't afford to rile the Bajorans, and the situation hadn't become so threatening that Starfleet would ignore Bajor's jurisdicition and just move in on their turf (that could happen, but only under a true crisis). The way I envision it happening, the general plotline would have worked out pretty much as we say, but there should have been a lot more fireworks along the way.
Not a big fan of the Bajorans...
They would have done it in the Death Star of course. Don't remember seeing the Dominion blow up any planets. Killing everyone on them, yes...
I think part of the point of DS9 was that there was an 'underdog' race thrust into the centre of galactic power... would really have spoiled a part of the concept of the show to get rid of Bajor, despite the fact that some here obviously weren't keen.
Well let me be blunt, who gives a fuck if some viewers "aren't keen" and can't handle a realistically written Trek alien race who aren't just there to be one-dimensional and oh so cool? Bajorans were one of the best developed and most complex cultures in Trek - probably better developed, more convincing and more similar to real life people than the "evolved" Humans of Trek...
My thoughts on the subject: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=101855
My thoughts on the subject: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=101855
Really?
I have way too many Jem'Hadar at my back...
You're not the only one that likes them. I also find some of the supposedly "boring" Bajoran plots to be utterly hair-raising in their prescience, in rewatching. They REALLY nailed the issues, and without the kind of real-world events to back it up that we now have.
Not sure why anyone would feel brave about admitting they are not keen on Bajorans... hating Bajorans seems to be a favorite pastime on this forum. I feel contrarian for liking them.
All the more reason...
Not sure why anyone would feel brave about admitting they are not keen on Bajorans... hating Bajorans seems to be a favorite pastime on this forum. I feel contrarian for liking them.
We'll fly the flag together!
^Make that three flying the flag!
And I may be a Cardassian fan, but the Bajorans are cool too. 
Hehe, we so need an official Bajoran fan club 
Would be quite cool to wear a Bajoran earring, but I think my boss would probably object!
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