ST-One
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Never once has there been a logical reason presented WHY homosexuality is morally wrong (other than 'my god said so'; and that isn't a valid argument).
Houston becomes the largest city to elect openly gay mayor?
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Never once has there been a logical reason presented WHY homosexuality is morally wrong (other than 'my god said so'; and that isn't a valid argument).
ST-One
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The only thing that is actually being 'promoted' about homosexuality is that it is a natural state of being and that it is perfectly harmless in and of itself to anyone.
TheLonelySquire
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No, no one is a paragon of virtue. However, I will only vote for someone who is a Christian. That's for sure. I want their decisions guided by God.
And if they are a Christian then by definition they will have asked for and been forgiven for their mistakes. That's the kind of person I want working for me.
National origin? Sure, if they are a nationalized citizen then I'd have no problem with it.
Uh... you have to be a citizen to run for office in the first place.
TheLonelySquire
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TheLonelySquire
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Cmon, you can smile...it's the holidays!
Oh, that's good. I was afraid for a second there that one of the founding principles of the US was supposed to be freedom from religious persecution. But since it's your opinion that only people with the same religion as you should be allowed to hold public office, I can see that idea has been tossed out!
JUST KIDDING! Smile, it's the holidays!
Isn't that a convenient assumption.
At least it falls in line with the liberal agenda and you wont get warned for it.
Didn't you call being gay a "birth defect" in this very topic? Now you're arguing that it isn't something you're born with? Or is it only something you're born with when it can be painted in a negative light as a result?
Thanks for confirming what everyone already knew though, that you typically say things not out of any actual conviction but just to piss people off, which is precisely why you received the trolling warning from me to address your second ridiculous comment. Good to see that you took the brief time off to consider the reasons for the warning and came to the utterly predictable conclusion that it wasn't your fault at all though.
Since you chose to bring up the warning in this thread instead of following the rules and PMing me or one of the other mods/admins to discuss it if you don't feel like I would fairly consider your point of view, I'll allow you to bypass the usual PM process you already ignored and say that if you want to start up an MA thread to call me on my alleged liberal agenda and its influence on my moderation, bring it on.
We haven't had a good MA thread in ages, and I hunger. Even better, do it tomorrow to properly kick off Festivus with an official Airing of Grievances. Or continue to make cheap shots in threads, since that's more your speed.
I've been very sick over the past few days and haven't posted so I've let people get away with things in this thread that I'd never tolerate normally. I'll freely admit that I often come down hard on virulent anti-gay rhetoric, and did so before becoming a moderator as well. I do it to counteract an unfortunate double-standard in which things are allowed to be said about homosexuals which would never fly if directed at other characteristics people are born with, like skin color.
Or, if you continue to allege that homosexuals aren't born that way, please explain the presence of same-sex behavior in other animals? Is that part of the gay penguin agenda? Also, please enlighten me on the exact time in your life when you decided to make a choice between being attracted to women or men, since apparently your options were wide open before that conscious decision was made. Did you flip through some gay and straight porn before saying, "you know, I don't believe I'm a fan of the penis"? Did you take one of each out for a test drive first before deciding to go with the 1980 model Vulva (they're boxy, but safe)?
There's no difference in the behavior of those bigoted against gays and those bigoted against blacks, it's just sad that you'll only come to understand that when your grandchildren talk about studying the rampant homophobia of a couple decades ago in school and you're forced to sit there in quiet shame or make some excuse about how it was a different time and people didn't know any better.
No one dies from being gay, but you knew that and again just said it to piss people off. I can produce some HIV/AIDS statistics for non-homosexuals for you though if you want, but I must warn you that it comes from scientists and other elitist intellectuals with an insidious agenda to tell the truth and help people through education. That's like Kryptonite for you guys, I know.
No one is forcing any agenda on her except those who criticize her solely for who she is attracted to sexually instead of her political platform or record of service.
TheLonelySquire
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Oh, that's good. I was afraid for a second there that one of the founding principles of the US was supposed to be freedom from religious persecution. But since it's your opinion that only people with the same religion as you should be allowed to hold public office, I can see that idea has been tossed out!
JUST KIDDING! Smile, it's the holidays!
That's not what I said. I said I'd only vote for a Christian. I have no problem with other people voting as they see fit for whoever they want to see elected.
<---- there you go....
Oh, that's good. I was afraid for a second there that one of the founding principles of the US was supposed to be freedom from religious persecution. But since it's your opinion that only people with the same religion as you should be allowed to hold public office, I can see that idea has been tossed out!
JUST KIDDING! Smile, it's the holidays!
That's not what I said. I said I'd only vote for a Christian. I have no problem with other people voting as they see fit for whoever they want to see elected.
I never said you shouldn't only vote for Christians. I did, however, point out that in a country founded on freedom from religious persecution, it's fairly antithetical. You have the right to vote for whomever you want and if you go around telling people about it, they have the right to tell you why your criteria doesn't make sense based on the ideals that the country is supposed to represent.
No, instead you (and others) buy into (and promote) fear and the bizarre, twisted notion that gays are "out to get you". Logic. Hrm.
Oh, that's good. I was afraid for a second there that one of the founding principles of the US was supposed to be freedom from religious persecution. But since it's your opinion that only people with the same religion as you should be allowed to hold public office, I can see that idea has been tossed out!
JUST KIDDING! Smile, it's the holidays!
That's not what I said. I said I'd only vote for a Christian. I have no problem with other people voting as they see fit for whoever they want to see elected.
So, you would only vote for a Christian. You wouldn't vote for a Jew, then? Simply because he/she is not a Christian? There's a word for that. Several, actually.
"Play into your opponent's hands."
This suggests that the "opponent" is doing things to try and lure the poster into a certain position, we'll call it "baiting."
Hmmmm.... You know I think there's something about that that sounds familiar.
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TheLonelySquire
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I don't believe homosexuals are out to "get me".
Which is why you allow them in your home and to talk to your children. Right... right?
TheLonelySquire
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I already said I would not try and have a homosexual teacher removed if they did not promote homosexuality in the classroom.
As far as the first part of your statement, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
And what is "pormote homosexuality"? Saying they're gay? Does that "promote" it? Would you be just as upset if a teacher said they were straight?
What is it about homosexuality that you find so offensive?
"That it's a sin."
I worked the other day. I didn't honor the sabbath, do you find that offensive? Do you go around telling people working on Sundays that they have a disease and they need therapy since they are violating God's word.
Why the focus on the homosexuality sin (not that I think that is true) and not other sin -which God sees as all being the same?
Why foucs so much time, effort, and energy on this one, in an earthly sense benign, sin? Why would you not vote for a man who's gay "because it's a sin" but vote for a man who lies (a sin)? Commits adultrey (a sin)? Works on the sabbath (a sin)? Talks to a woman on the rag (a sin)?
What is it about homosexuality that sets people off so much?
Would you vote for a gay woman? Is it just gay men you have problem with? Is it because you get your idea of gay men from Will and Grace reruns? Is it the cock-in the pooper stuff?
Why is homosexuality so offensive? Why is two people of the same gender loving each other, devoting life to one another so damn offensive? Why the fuck do you care who they love and want to spend their life with? How does that effect their politics and how they'll govern? Do you think they'll pass a law that says you have to get piped once a week? That you have to kiss a man once to see if you might like it? Is it the EVUL GAY AGENDA!!!! ?
Why do you care who someone loves? Do you judge EVERYONE one on what their partenr is like? What about interracial marriages (a sin)? Do you find THAT offensive?
Why do you have such a hard-on against gay people? What is it about that one paticular "sin" that you don't like? And more-over, why the fuck do you care?
What is it about homosexuality that you find so offensive?
"That it's a sin."
I worked the other day. I didn't honor the sabbath, do you find that offensive? Do you go around telling people working on Sundays that they have a disease and they need therapy since they are violating God's word.
Why the focus on the homosexuality sin (not that I think that is true) and not other sin -which God sees as all being the same?
Why foucs so much time, effort, and energy on this one, in an earthly sense benign, sin? Why would you not vote for a man who's gay "because it's a sin" but vote for a man who lies (a sin)? Commits adultrey (a sin)? Works on the sabbath (a sin)? Talks to a woman on the rag (a sin)?
What is it about homosexuality that sets people off so much?
Would you vote for a gay woman? Is it just gay men you have problem with? Is it because you get your idea of gay men from Will and Grace reruns? Is it the cock-in the pooper stuff?
Why is homosexuality so offensive? Why is two people of the same gender loving each other, devoting life to one another so damn offensive? Why the fuck do you care who they love and want to spend their life with? How does that effect their politics and how they'll govern? Do you think they'll pass a law that says you have to get piped once a week? That you have to kiss a man once to see if you might like it? Is it the EVUL GAY AGENDA!!!! ?
Why do you care who someone loves? Do you judge EVERYONE one on what their partenr is like? What about interracial marriages (a sin)? Do you find THAT offensive?
Why do you have such a hard-on against gay people? What is it about that one paticular "sin" that you don't like? And more-over, why the fuck do you care?
If being born gay is how it is then that means that the people who choose to be gay, they are doing it because they are finally giving in to their birth tendencies? I personally know quite a few gays who choose to be that way. One of my cousins as a matter of fact rebelled against his family's religious beliefs and chose to be gay just to tick them off. He died 2 years ago of Aids, so did his partner..It is proven that if you truly accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, be truly born again, the tendency to be gay leaves, which makes the bible true, that old things are passed away...oh you will still have tendencies but you have the Holy Spirit living inside you to give you strength not to go that route again. Gay is a lifestyle a choice. It is typical of those who say it is by birth to refer to studies that is funded by gay groups..who do you think they are going to find in favor of? duhhhh...
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