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Tholians and or Gorn?

The Tholians are a major part of the Vanguard series, so you might want to check those books out. The Gorn haven't been featured as much, I don't think.

However, both races are part of the upcoming Typhon Pact novels, so those will probably have something to offer you.
 
The Tholians are a major part of the Vanguard series, so you might want to check those books out. The Gorn haven't been featured as much, I don't think.

However, both races are part of the upcoming Typhon Pact novels, so those will probably have something to offer you.

Thanks!
 
A lot of Tholian culture was actually established, iirc, in The Lost Era: The Sundered, which is also a pretty awesome book.

I'd read that book and then Vanguard, to learn more about the Tholians. Plus Vanguard is absurdly fantastic all around :)
 
A lot of Tholian culture was actually established, iirc, in The Lost Era: The Sundered, which is also a pretty awesome book.

I'd read that book and then Vanguard, to learn more about the Tholians. Plus Vanguard is absurdly fantastic all around :)

Thanks I will do that!
 
Another vote over here for TLE:The Sundered. I loved that book. It works as set up for not only the Vanguard series with the Tholians, but elements of it's story are continued in the second Titan book The Red King (the Neyel), and it also works as an Excelsior book, being that it stars Hikaru Sulu and his crew. That novel has it all ;)!
 
They've both had some decent stuff in the comics, too: The Gorn Crisis for the Gorn (duh) and the Chakuun story arc in Early Voyages (now collected as Star Trek Omnibus, Volume 2) for the Tholians.
 
Recovery features the Tholians, IIRC...and the TNG novel Requiem features the Gorn...

I believe there is a SNW (Strange New Worlds) short story that features the Gorn from 'Arena' and Ben Sisko.
 
They've both had some decent stuff in the comics, too: The Gorn Crisis for the Gorn (duh) and the Chakuun story arc in Early Voyages (now collected as Star Trek Omnibus, Volume 2) for the Tholians.

Plus an Alien Spotlight: Gorn issue with Terrell and Chekov.

And the Tholians played a big role in the "War and Madness" arc in DC's TNG comic, though they were portrayed as crystalline bipeds rather than the more exotic designs seen in the modern novels and ENT. Meanwhile, the TOS novel The Lost Years: Recovery offers yet another take on the Tholians, with the angular "head" being explained as a helmet over something more fleshy and tentacled.
 
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Meanwhile, the novel The Lost Era: Recovery offers yet another take on the Tholians, with the angular "head" being explained as a helmet over something more fleshy and tentacled.

sorry, but what?

Here's all we ever saw canonically of a Tholian prior to "In a Mirror, Darkly":

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Loskene.jpg

Just a faceted "head" with a pair of eyes in it. The shape of the rest of the body was unknown, and there were many different speculations, but usually it was assumed that what we saw in that image was the Tholian's actual head. However, Recovery asserted that it was merely a helmet worn over the real head.
 
Meanwhile, the novel The Lost Era: Recovery offers yet another take on the Tholians, with the angular "head" being explained as a helmet over something more fleshy and tentacled.

sorry, but what?

Here's all we ever saw canonically of a Tholian prior to "In a Mirror, Darkly":

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Loskene.jpg

Just a faceted "head" with a pair of eyes in it. The shape of the rest of the body was unknown, and there were many different speculations, but usually it was assumed that what we saw in that image was the Tholian's actual head. However, Recovery asserted that it was merely a helmet worn over the real head.

There was no Lost Era novel entitled Recovery. The Lost Era novels were entitled The Sundered, Serpents Among the Ruins, The Art of the Impossible, Well of Souls, Deny Thy Father, and Catalyst of Sorrows.
 
Oh! I meant The Lost Years: Recovery by J.M. Dillard. :o Easy to get those blanket titles confused. I'll edit my earlier post.
 
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