Refit NX, with or without booms?
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What are...'booms'?
I imagine a small oval shaped secondary hull would be positioned inbetween the two large impulse engines, connected to the boom where that domed structure is. Somewhere below it maybe? With a spiky deflector dish on it. The front of the primary hull, because it's the leading edge of the ship, maybe given over to weapons like torpedo launchers for the Romulan War.
Engineering is relocated from its old location within a lower/rear deck of the saucer. Ideal because if a reactor breach happens, they can separate from it and move off in the saucer.
I don't have much of a design sense though. Not enough to be helpful. I feel the ship would still have to look different enough from what we've seen in the future... like a configuaration they tried out but abandoned in favour of the Daedalus or whatever the hell, Kelvin was. It's not really enough to just make the NX-01 exactly like the NCC-1701. It's too early. We need to see somekind of an evolution going on, a progression towards that look, with more obvious touches signposting what's right around the corner.
I remember seeing an early 23rd Century ship in those Ships of the Line calendars once. The Bonaventure I think it was called? Which didn't seem to have a secondary hull at all. Similar to the NX-01 but with the same type of hull coating as the Constitution class. Not that that matters... it's design speculation and anything ENT or another prequel series had come up with onscreen would have become the real deal by default.
Engineering is relocated from its old location within a lower/rear deck of the saucer. Ideal because if a reactor breach happens, they can separate from it and move off in the saucer.
I don't have much of a design sense though. Not enough to be helpful. I feel the ship would still have to look different enough from what we've seen in the future... like a configuaration they tried out but abandoned in favour of the Daedalus or whatever the hell, Kelvin was. It's not really enough to just make the NX-01 exactly like the NCC-1701. It's too early. We need to see somekind of an evolution going on, a progression towards that look, with more obvious touches signposting what's right around the corner.
I remember seeing an early 23rd Century ship in those Ships of the Line calendars once. The Bonaventure I think it was called? Which didn't seem to have a secondary hull at all. Similar to the NX-01 but with the same type of hull coating as the Constitution class. Not that that matters... it's design speculation and anything ENT or another prequel series had come up with onscreen would have become the real deal by default.
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Personally, I like the girls with th' BOOM.
I've always called them 'catamarans.' Isn't the 'boom' part of the sail?
Anyways, I've considered this problem before. If you try to add the secondary hull with the traditional neck & pylon structures, you're faced with the catamarans being superfluous. But if you remove them, it really ceases to be the same ship IMO. It's just too much change stylistically.
You'd have to cut just their ends off and find an attractive way to cap them off.
The guys working on the show wanted to add a secondary hull eventually, they're going to do a shot of it in the next Ships of the Line Calendar. But they were essentially just going to greatly enlarge and lower the existing engineering pod. The nacelles would remain the same, and I don't believe there would be a neck either.
Anyways, I've considered this problem before. If you try to add the secondary hull with the traditional neck & pylon structures, you're faced with the catamarans being superfluous. But if you remove them, it really ceases to be the same ship IMO. It's just too much change stylistically.
You'd have to cut just their ends off and find an attractive way to cap them off.
The guys working on the show wanted to add a secondary hull eventually, they're going to do a shot of it in the next Ships of the Line Calendar. But they were essentially just going to greatly enlarge and lower the existing engineering pod. The nacelles would remain the same, and I don't believe there would be a neck either.
I like the idea of an NX with a secondary hull attached below. It would look very much like a 22nd century Constitution...
Susan Ivanova said it best: "Boom. Boom boom boom. Boom boom. BOOM! Have a nice day."
Personally, I like the girls with th' BOOM.
Susan Ivanova said it best: "Boom. Boom boom boom. Boom boom. BOOM! Have a nice day."
Personally, I love those. Having the gap is really visually interesting.
Hey all, I had to rejoin the site to post this for some reason, not that any of you would know me since I mostly lurk....but anyways. After reading this and hearing from the drex files about the idea to refit NX class, i took an hour and whipped this up to show my idea of what an NX would look like with a secondary hull. I only made the 2 views but I'm sure you can see where I was going with it. The drop shuttlepod bay would now be where the neck connects to the primary hull. The warp field thing in between the "booms" would be gone as I figure the refit would remove the need for it. The warp core and shuttlepod bay would now be in the secondary hull, and the main deflector at the foward end of the saucer would be gone and moved to the front the the secondary hull.....I pretty much went full
Constitution class.....not very original, but hey, what is these days?
http://www.imagebam.com/image/34638759308778
Never posted an image on here before so I hope this works.
Constitution class.....not very original, but hey, what is these days?
http://www.imagebam.com/image/34638759308778
Never posted an image on here before so I hope this works.
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Looks fine. I always say when doing something like this, make it subtle, and not in your face.
Thanks. Ever since Doug Drexler mentioned the season 5 refit idea I've been dying to see what it would look like. My only hope is that's it's more like my idea and less just simply making the pod a little larger and lowering it. Either way, I can't wait to see it fully realized in 3D.
me either, i just hope he lets us enjoy the design process with him, and not have to wait till next november to see it!!! haha
i thought i put it in this thread too i must have gotten distracted, but i posted an outline of what im playing with in my "no-boom" version.
from -> http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=110004
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AnyStar, just a reminder to keep your images small enough to avoid Page Stretch Syndrome. Aim for 640p wide. Thanks.
I'm not quite sure I get what people mean by engineering pod...anyway, my suggestion is to take a look at the design for Intrepid as seen in "The Expanse" and "Twilight" for an idea on how a secondary hull could possibly look (might have also made a quick appearance in "Home") without a neck and/or during the designs of that era.
I think for an NX-refit, ideally I'd sling something similar to an engineering hull under the saucer - keep the engine room in the same place, but place the "neck" attachment point where the shuttlebays are. The new hull would be more of a supply hull and would hold a larger shuttlebay, more cargo bays and a more powerful deflector dish for deeper space voyages. The old deflector in the front of the saucer would of course be filled in, with more research sections being added in place of the deflector assembly.
I think Enterprise wouldn't recieve this refit, being assigned relativley close to home as of Season 4, but I could see the NX-class ships that are planned on being sent into deep space recieving that sort of refit.
And, it would tie nicely to the Kelvin.
I think Enterprise wouldn't recieve this refit, being assigned relativley close to home as of Season 4, but I could see the NX-class ships that are planned on being sent into deep space recieving that sort of refit.
And, it would tie nicely to the Kelvin.
