Starfleet before the Federation

[Finngle Bells]

This reminds me of someone I once knew who claimed I wasn't familiar with certain movies because I didn't memorize the lines...

 

[Santa Kang]

This reminds me of someone I once knew who claimed I wasn't familiar with certain movies because I didn't memorize the lines...

Knew a guy who could recite Monty Python and the Holy Grail from start to finish.

 

[HoHoHoRod]

I'd consider myself a Functional Hardcore Fan.

Functional in that I can turn off my Trekkiesness when I want to and can fully accept that it's just a TV show and not letting it control every aspect of my life, like some of the more..... extreme examples of the fandom.

While at the same time, I maintain an extensive library of reference materials, plus every episode and film in the highest possible quality.

I build Star Trek models in whatever precious spare time I have, while also having a sizeable collection of statues, figures, artwork, etc. All proudly displayed throughout my house.

I also named my son after my favourite starship captain and I managed to incorporate the TOS uniform colours into my wedding without too many people noticing.

Who am I kidding..... I'm just a Hardcore Fan.

 

[Santa Kang]

I'd consider myself a Functional Hardcore Fan.

Functional in that I can turn off my Trekkiesness when I want to and can fully accept that it's just a TV show and not letting it control every aspect of my life, like some of the more..... extreme examples of the fandom.

While at the same time, I maintain an extensive library of reference materials, plus every episode and film in the highest possible quality.

I build Star Trek models in whatever precious spare time I have, while also having a sizeable collection of statues, figures, artwork, etc. All proudly displayed throughout my house.

I also named my son after my favourite starship captain and I managed to incorporate the TOS uniform colours into my wedding without too many people noticing.

Who am I kidding..... I'm just a Hardcore Fan.

I have a "continuity sense" that can raise a hackle when watching. I usually ignore it.

 

[Santa Kang]

" Well, you're not hardcore. Unless you live hardcore." -Dewey Finn

 

[somebuddyX]

I'm not really a fan of the NX refit. I like the NX-01 the way it is in the show. To me it's kind of like if the Enterprise-D was known for looking like the future version in "All Good Things.." Maybe if I'd seen it in the show I'd have a different opinion. It's just too TOS looking for my taste.

 

[HoHoHoRod]

I'm not really a fan of the NX refit. I like the NX-01 the way it is in the show.

Agree 100%. The NX-01 is one of the most beautiful and well balanced ships in the franchise. It has a gracefulness to it that a lot of starships lack.

It loses all of that when you just tack on some extra bits in an effort to make it look more like a Constitution, imo.

I don't think there has ever been a successful example where taking an existing Starship design and adding extra bits to it has actually improved the design....

The Excelsior looks significantly better than the Enterprise-B, the All Good Things... Future Enterprise-D is a monstrosity, and tbe NX-01 Refit, as mentioned, is kinda fugly.

To me, it's a lot like a beautiful car. Some designer spent hundreds of hours balancing out a design. Giving it perfectly sweeping lines and contours to match.

Then someone takes this beautiful design and throws a bunch of crap on it. Ugly rims, an ungodly huge spoiler, a different hood and a body kit.

What was once a beautifully well thought out design, has now become a mismatch of shapes and lines.

IMO.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

What episode was it again? "Demons?"

Yup.

Post-TOS it was mentioned via UESPA-1 in "Friendship One (VOY)" and on the Enterprise-B dedication plaque in "Generations" in addition to the above.

 

[Dukhat]

Agree 100%. The NX-01 is one of the most beautiful and well balanced ships in the franchise. It has a gracefulness to it that a lot of starships lack.

It loses all of that when you just tack on some extra bits in an effort to make it look more like a Constitution, imo.

I don't think there has ever been a successful example where taking an existing Starship design and adding extra bits to it has actually improved the design....

The Excelsior looks significantly better than the Enterprise-B, the All Good Things... Future Enterprise-D is a monstrosity, and tbe NX-01 Refit, as mentioned, is kinda fugly.

To me, it's a lot like a beautiful car. Some designer spent hundreds of hours balancing out a design. Giving it perfectly sweeping lines and contours to match.

Then someone takes this beautiful design and throws a bunch of crap on it. Ugly rims, an ungodly huge spoiler, a different hood and a body kit.

What was once a beautifully well thought out design, has now become a mismatch of shapes and lines.

IMO.

I used to like the NX-refit solely because it made the ship look less like the Akira class it was originally based off of. But these days I could take it or leave it. The NX class has grown on me over time (I originally hated it with a passion), but adding a secondary hull doesn't necessarily make the ship look better or worse to me. I guess I'm indifferent to it.

 

[Ríu ríu chíu]

I actually DO like the NX refit. I wish we'd gotten the chance to actually see one in action.

And I'm also fully on board with the Akira class (which I also love, BTW) being, IN-universe- intentionally designed as a tribute to the classic NX design.

So there.