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I don't know how I feel about Torchwood

^ Trust me. It wouldn't work out. I already have a "wrong"/excessively conservative view of sex in general (ask around here a bit, you'll see); this would only make it worse.
 
^ Trust me. It wouldn't work. I already have a "wrong"/excessively conservative view of sex in general; this would only make it worse. :p
There's hardly any sex in it, there's a relationship between 2 men but nothing beyond kissing on screen, and you see 2 naked arses but not in a sexual context. My 11 and 13 year old niece were allowed to watch.
 
My 11 and 13 year old niece were allowed to watch.

They've probably got much fewer neuroses than I (supposedly) do. :lol:

seriously though, I think I've got an idea of what this show is like, just by watching threads like this...trust me, it's probably best that I stay away. My attitudes towards life in general, let alone the kind of TV shows that I enjoy, are probably too linear and 'black & white' to allow me to appreciate a show like this. I mean, I'm a huge fan of the original Battlestar Galactica, what does THAT tell you? :lol:

Hey, you gotta give me some credit, I haven't slammed Torchwood, have I? I'd like to think I know how to pick my battles. ;)
 
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Nobody fucked a dog, John just appeared to be sexually attracted to one when they were driving down the street.
He was commenting on the woman and understanding why Jack stays on Earth when he saw something and Gwen said it was a poodle.

Still sounds really sick. Bestiality shouldn't even be joked about, IMHO.

Guess I'm not adventurous enough to enjoy a show like this...fine. I get that. :p

Did you not watch the episode Gridlock? Season 3 of Doctor Who ... one of the couples the Doctor encounters is a Human female who has a half-cat, half-human husband, and shows their kittens. If that isn't a problem for you, why would Gwen's joke in Torchwood be a problem?
 
Wouldn't recommend Torchwood for its strong plot, but it's fun, and it has its moments. OK, I'm a bit biased here because I find Jack funny and sexy and I appreciate the homoerotic vibes...

Unfortunately, I'll have to wait until Christmas to get to see season three... :rolleyes:
 
Wouldn't recommend Torchwood for its strong plot, but it's fun, and it has its moments. OK, I'm a bit biased here because I find Jack funny and sexy and I appreciate the homoerotic vibes...

I honestly don't get the love for Jack. I think he's weird-looking.
 
Did you not watch the episode Gridlock?

I have never seen any DW episode past the McGann TV-movie. So the answer to your question would probably be "no."

You've missed out on some great television, not to mention the Hugo Award-winning "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" two parter which explains why Captain Jack is the way he is.

Have you just refused to watch it, or are you in a part of the world where neither the show nor the DVDs have been available? (This actually goes for Torchwood too, otherwise you'd probably have a better understanding of the references being discussed here.)

As for my comments on the show itself, I thought season 1 was fine. The problem with it is that it was too far removed from the status quo of Doctor Who for some people to accept. The sexual content, the language, etc.-- in a show like nuBSG or Deadwood or Entourage (I'm not just sticking to SF here) such things go on and people don't bat an eyelash. But in the chaste Doctor Who universe where everyone is supposed to be a eunich, it really rubbed some people the wrong way.

To be fair to the critics, there was a sense of "let's do it because we can get away with it" in some of the episodes which never really helped the story. But the terrifying Countrycide (the only completely non-SF episode in the history of the Who franchise), and the rather charming Gwen-centric episode about the shoes, and definitely Out of Time, were terrific pieces of TV. Captain Jack Harkness (referring here to the Hugo-nominated episode by that name) was also quite appealing to those open-minded enough to accept the romance of it.

Season 2 was a marked improvement because the "let's do it because we can" attitude had faded, so the show "calmed down". And the show made some very brave choices in handling Owen's predicament, while at the same time it had gained enough confidence to make the more direct link to the parent show by adding Martha Jones to the cast. I enjoyed the first season immensely, but Season 2 was the superior. As it should be (every year should get better).

Season 3 blew everything out of the water. After one season of testing the waters, and one season of gaining momentum, Season 3 hit it out of the park and easily ranks up among the top 3 Doctor Who franchise stories of all time. Children of Earth also, in my opinion, falls into the category of "if you still hate Torchwood after this, it's lost to you" category in much the same way anyone who wasn't won over to the Doctor Who revival with episodes like Blink or Midnight or Girl in the Fireplace are pretty much lost causes, too. The various Trek series and BSG and most other good shows have at least one episode that falls into this "make or break" category. The Children of Earth mini was Torchwood's.

Alex
 
Wouldn't recommend Torchwood for its strong plot, but it's fun, and it has its moments. OK, I'm a bit biased here because I find Jack funny and sexy and I appreciate the homoerotic vibes...

I honestly don't get the love for Jack. I think he's weird-looking.

You're not really his target audience, so it's understandable. ;)
No, but I can tell whether or not a man is attractive. There's just something about Jack's face that bothers me...
 
No, but I can tell whether or not a man is attractive. There's just something about Jack's face that bothers me...
sexy != handsome, and of course, personal tastes differ.

(Fun thing though, among the TV characters I find attractive, I always though Jack to be one of the more classical handsome guys.)
 
Somewhere in TW Season 2, I realized I was enjoying it much more than DW Season Four. Much to my shock.
 
1) Yeah, I have a feeling the writers didn't really have a clue what to do with the character. As for Janeway she was always boring.

2) Huh, I don't really see any weird looking faces.

3) Nope, Gwen is straight (The only lesbian moment being with a woman possessed by an alien in series 1), Tosh is probably straight but wanted to experiment (the only lesbian moment being with another woman possessed by an alien in series 1) and Owen is straight.

I found series one to be one of the worst TV series I've ever seen. Certainly it's the worst sci-fi show I've seen.

Series two was an improvement, but not as much as I first thought it was.

Series three on the otherhand made me wonder if I was watching the same show, there was just such a huge jump in quality. It went from being a laughable attempt at an adult show to being on BSG's level of drama (and perhaps exceeding it).

It's main problem is it's cast of characters are boring, inconsistent and in the case of Owen unlikable (though he did improve in series 2). They managed to instill some personality into Ianto, promoting him from simple coffee maker to coffee maker and Jack's partner (not really an improvement). With Gwen they quietly pretended the whole rubbishly thoughtout affair didn't happen, preferring to focus more on her relationship to her boyfriend. Owen got a dose of humanity. Tosh was... er Tosh.

So yeah, series two was an improvement, but only a slight one.
 
clearly you've never seen Hyperdrive or Crime Traveller.
Never heard of them.
Both are British shows, Hyperdrive is a "comedy" about the crew of a British space ship travelling space trying to attract alien businesses to open branches in the UK for tax breaks (I think that was the premise anyway)
Crime Traveller was a crime drama, about a detective who had a machine that meant he could travel in time, usually around a day or so and he'd go and investigate the crime before it happened/as it happened.

Or Andromeda
I stopped watching Andromeda when the purple girl with a tail stopped being purple and having a tail.[/QUOTE]
I can't remember when I stopped, I just kinda watched some repeats then gave up after a few.
 
clearly you've never seen Hyperdrive or Crime Traveller.
Never heard of them.
Both are British shows, Hyperdrive is a "comedy" about the crew of a British space ship travelling space trying to attract alien businesses to open branches in the UK for tax breaks (I think that was the premise anyway)
Crime Traveller was a crime drama, about a detective who had a machine that meant he could travel in time, usually around a day or so and he'd go and investigate the crime before it happened/as it happened.

[quote[Or Andromeda
I stopped watching Andromeda when the purple girl with a tail stopped being purple and having a tail.
I can't remember when I stopped, I just kinda watched some repeats then gave up after a few.
Yeah, I didn't really stop BECAUSE of that. I just remember her changing being one of the last things I saw.
 
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