Why were most of the women Yeomen?
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Hardly a week goes by on this forum when I don't make a gaffe of some sort or another.
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Doug
^Yeah, but tell that to Emma Peel and Cinnamon Carter...
I'm imagining those two in those pink collar professions. Secretaries. you better have an appointment if you know what's good for you. Nurses, you'd better truly be hurt or sick or else they'll PUT you in the hospital faster than you can say "traction". And as stewardesses God help you if you ignore the "Fasten seatbelt" light.
Robert
Well, Emma would beat you up; Cinnamon would be more likely to seduce you into compliance, and only beat you up as plan B.
Has this story been corroborated elsewhere...? I mean, did Roddenberry actually go on record saying he wouldn’t shag his grandmother?
A lot of peole MASH those up.
Ha ha. Uhhhhhh….
They actually did that in an early TNG episode (either "Naked Now" or the one about the Traveler; I forget which). And yes, it looked really stupid.
Guys belong in kilts.
^The TNG unisex uniforms were called "skants" (skirt-pants). And they wouldn't qualify as miniskirts, since they went somewhat further down the thigh.
And I am of the opinion that it's implausible if the fashions in a future setting don't look silly to our eyes. Look at how much we mock fashions from just two or three decades ago.
And I am of the opinion that it's implausible if the fashions in a future setting don't look silly to our eyes. Look at how much we mock fashions from just two or three decades ago.
It was the 1960s.
Here's the interesting thing. In The Corbomite Maneuver, it's implied female yeomen weren't that common, when Kirk says, "When I get a hold of the headquarters genius who assigned me a female yeoman," to which McCoy replies, "What's the matter, Jim? Don't trust yourself?" So we can assume Kirk may have had a male yeoman in his previous command.
We never ever saw a male yeoman in the series, of course. I have a fanfic with a male yeoman serving a female captain, of course.
Red Ranger
Here's the interesting thing. In The Corbomite Maneuver, it's implied female yeomen weren't that common, when Kirk says, "When I get a hold of the headquarters genius who assigned me a female yeoman," to which McCoy replies, "What's the matter, Jim? Don't trust yourself?" So we can assume Kirk may have had a male yeoman in his previous command.
We never ever saw a male yeoman in the series, of course. I have a fanfic with a male yeoman serving a female captain, of course.
Red Ranger
Sorry, it looked like a miniskirt to me. It looked exactly like Deanna's outfit in "Encounter at Farpoint" except it was Security-yellow, instead of Science-blue.
And speak for yoursel(ves)f when mocking '70s and '80s fashions. For the most part I found them quite comfortable. At least we were actually dressed in public, which is something you can't say of some pop stars these days.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Man_in_a_skant.jpg
Looks to me like it extends about halfway down the thigh. I suppose that fits Wikipedia's definition of a miniskirt as "a skirt with a hemline well above the knees – generally 20 cm (7.9 in) or more above knee level." I guess I was comparing it to the micro-miniskirts (mini-culottes, rather) of TOS.
I wasn't mocking them. I was acknowledging that they tend to be mocked. My point was that the fashions of one era tend to be seen as strange or ridiculous by people in a different era. I'm sure people from the '70s would mock our fashions, and with just as much (or as little) justification.
Personally, I've never understood fashion. I don't see how, if something's good in one decade, it could be bad in another. I'm simply observing, as a complete outsider to fashion, that fashions change over time, and that it would therefore be appropriate for the costume designs of a science fiction series set far in the future to look strange to present-day viewers. If anything, men in the 24th century will probably be wearing things far stranger to our eyes than a skant.
^ Keep in mind that, for all intents and purposes, we're talking about military uniforms here, not civilian clothes. I think the TOS and TNG outfits look sufficiently different from today's military uniforms to be believably from a different era, while still looking enough like a uniform to be recognizable as such. Much as would be the case if you looked at a military uniform from a few hundred years ago.
Yet in "Encounter at Farpoint", Picard referred to Q's U.S. Marine Corps uniform as a "costume", and not just because Q is wearing it to make a point; Picard says something like "...even back when men wore costumes like that". I wonder if he considers his own uniform a "costume".
Especially when one considers that, at the time, he was wearing something even Freddie Mercury would have turned his nose up at...
Troi didn't crash the Enterprise, Moore and Braga did...
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