Heroes Season 4 spoilers

[Mallet]

Might as well put this out there.

WWK is reporting that in an early episode of Season 4 Hiro travel back in time and KILLS SYLAR before Sylar can kill Charlie (the girl from the coffee shop that Hiro fell for in Season One) thus changing the series entire timeline from that point on. Making it that the last 2 seasons (and the end of season one) never happened (or at least happened differently).

Are the writers taking a page from Lost and the Star Trek reboot and going to try and fix the mistakes of the last few seasons? Or is this just going to be a copout (like ST:TNG often did) where everything will end up back as normal by the end of the following episode? IE) At the end of the episode where Hiro kills Sylar and changes everything a future Hiro goes back in time and stops younger Hiro from going back in time and killing Sylar, so everything that we saw in the episode ends up never happening.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Sounds ridiculously convoluted, absurd, and unnecessary.

About par for the course for Heroes these days.

 

[melancholymecha]

at first I was like, no way... & then I thought, wait its Heroes, why not!

 

[Broccoli]

It would almost have to be a cop-out ending, especially since one of the plotlines of "Redemption" is about the Sylar-as-Nathan.

But, who knows?

 

[Dorian Thompson]

Are they trying to be bad? Are they trying to do MST3K Heroes? That can't be true.

 

[Hermiod]

If that's true, does that mean that Hiro and Peter both get their proper powers back ?

If so I will happily live with a reboot.

 

[NileQT87]

I imagine if it does happen (and it likely would sound like a fine idea to Hiro or any heroic character), we'll have Hiro traveling to the future to find out what the result of killing Sylar was, and find out that Sylar is needed in the future for something (Arthur is potentially one example).

I can see how this would work as the prevention of a possible future episode that they do every season.

They never stick, but you learn things about the characters and there are always a number of elements of each future that remain the same (Peter's scar and Claire's brown hair) and eventually come to pass, just in a different way (Sylar trying to become Nathan and be president being a prominent one--becoming Nathan came true). Sylar is always shown to be taking over the lives of the heroes and trying to become them (either trying to be a better Nathan than Nathan or taking over the Bennet household--to the point of naming his son, presumably with Elle, "Noah").

People are jumping the gun on thinking that this is an undo. If anything, it will be used to show that Sylar is necessary for something in the future. It will be Hiro sacrificing Charlie to prevent something else.

Think "The City on the Edge of Forever".

 

[Cky]

Well they got that new antagonist, and from the trailers Sylar can be heard saying "I want my body back", so I don't think any of this is true. Unless the episode is just their usual "go to the future" episode but with a little twist, being that it's the present now instead.

Plus, we've seen Peter using different powers in the trailer as well.

 

[Hermiod]

Plus, we've seen Peter using different powers in the trailer as well.

Peter can use other powers, but his ability is still crippled. If I saw him using more than one ability in quick succession without touching anyone, then I'd be satisfied.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Well this sounds like an utterly shit idea. I wholly expect it to be true. Although if it's any later than episode 2 I'll probably never see it anyway. I'm giving season 4 a chance, and I'm expecting this, and other terrible ideas that are badly executed, to be par for the course.

 

[PlainSimpleJoel]

I'm thinking it's episode 8, as that episode title refers to Texas.

 

[NileQT87]

I'll be interested to see what the flashback episode will have (I love those--they're always favorites of mine). The flashbacks in previous seasons were episodes 1x10/sorta 1x17, 2x08 and 3x08, so they should probably be getting around to doing that one.

Every season has a flashback episode and a future episode. This could be a combination of the two in a way.

 

[Hermiod]

Might as well put this out there.

WWK is reporting that in an early episode of Season 4 Hiro travel back in time and KILLS SYLAR before Sylar can kill Charlie (the girl from the coffee shop that Hiro fell for in Season One) thus changing the series entire timeline from that point on. Making it that the last 2 seasons (and the end of season one) never happened (or at least happened differently).

Are the writers taking a page from Lost and the Star Trek reboot and going to try and fix the mistakes of the last few seasons? Or is this just going to be a copout (like ST:TNG often did) where everything will end up back as normal by the end of the following episode? IE) At the end of the episode where Hiro kills Sylar and changes everything a future Hiro goes back in time and stops younger Hiro from going back in time and killing Sylar, so everything that we saw in the episode ends up never happening.

HeroSite is saying Jayma Mays (Charlie) will be back because "the dying time-traveller" (presumably Hiro) has a bucket list (i.e. a list of things he wants to do before kicking the bucket) and saving Charlie is on that list.

 

[Luckyflux]

Plus, we've seen Peter using different powers in the trailer as well.

Peter can use other powers, but his ability is still crippled. If I saw him using more than one ability in quick succession without touching anyone, then I'd be satisfied.

I would love to see the badass Peter from the future. The one where he uses all different powers to kick the crap out of some Homeland Security dudes. His face was scarred if I remember correctly.

Make Peter the badass he should be.

 

[Mallet]

Just talking about it makes me remember how great season one was. Peter running around trying to save Claire when he didn't even know that he had any powers and was sure he was going to die, but was going to do it anyways. That was great stuff.

 

[SG-17]

Its Grandfather Paradox time.

 

[Checkmate]

It would be incredibly stupid if it happened for one reason if no other: Hiro was whisked out of Charlie's time the moment he was about to change it, and apparently couldn't get back for whatever reason.

It was one of the many limitations they were introducing in the first season to rein in both Hiro's and Peter's powers, but was quickly ignored as all the others. It was never explained why he was whisked away, why he couldn't go back, or why he couldn't save her. He just couldn't and so shrugged and carried on.

It doesn't make much sense for him to spontaneously decide to fix things, especially if FutureHiro (who had mastered his powers) never tried to do so.

Soft rebooting the series is one thing, but doing it in such a horrible way only places emphasis on just how bad the writing has been for the show more than anything else.