Pocket's 2010 Schedule Announced on TrekMovie.com

[Therin of Andor]

the various anniversaries were hardly pursued with the same amount of ardour.

Huh?

I seem to recall TOS people saying there was way too much emphasis on TNG in their anniversary year and, and vice versa. I recall several years of VOY people saying "Where's my Voyager stuff?", even though that TV series rated tiny numbers compared to TNG. I recall an outcry when Margaret announced that 2009 was essentially "leaving TOS to JJ", but that the balance would even out eventually. People are complaining that Margaret Clark is not pursuing anything with the ardour they seem to expect.

Even if every book series got four titles each for every year of the next decade, it wouldn't be enough TOS for the TOS people, or enough TNG for the TNG people, or enough NF for the NF people.

Maybe it's a mistake to announce the next eighteen months of titles, and unleash months of grumbling over titles we only have blurbs and writers for? In the late 70s and early 80s we lived in blissful ignorance, waiting for the next copy of "Locus" to find out the title of the one next ST title, due in about four months time. Often, the first we saw of cover art was when the book appeared on the bookshelves.

 

[crohnie]

I'm waiting to October as well. Unless I somehow decide to buy the novelization, and then the other ADF ST09 book etc.

But I mean I jumped into the books right at the Destiny Trilogy so I'm definitely interested in the Typhon story line.
(Also up to date with Titan)
So its already a lot of books.

 

[aventinelover]

the various anniversaries were hardly pursued with the same amount of ardour.

Huh?

I seem to recall TOS people saying there was way too much emphasis on TNG in their anniversary year and, and vice versa. I recall several years of VOY people saying "Where's my Voyager stuff?", even though that TV series rated tiny numbers compared to TNG. I recall an outcry when Margaret announced that 2009 was essentially "leaving TOS to JJ", but that the balance would even out eventually. People are complaining that Margaret Clark is not pursuing anything with the ardour they seem to expect.

Even if every book series got four titles each for every year of the next decade, it wouldn't be enough TOS for the TOS people, or enough TNG for the TNG people, or enough NF for the NF people.

Maybe it's a mistake to announce the next eighteen months of titles, and unleash months of grumbling over titles we only have blurbs and writers for? In the late 70s and early 80s we lived in blissful ignorance, waiting for the next copy of "Locus" to find out the title of the one next ST title, due in about four months time. Often, the first we saw of cover art was when the book appeared on the bookshelves.

Amen to that, Therin! I often think when reading over these forums that the many grumblers and complainers should just be thankful that they have something to grumble over...how many "popular" series and movies have one or two novels a YEAR come out to satisfy those fans? And we're getting 12-18 or more (with trades and comics included)?? Yes, that's definitely something to complain about! and maybe all the complainers should do what I do when something comes out that I don't like...don't worry about it, enjoy what you do have and even work on your own interpretation of the Trek Universe!

 

[Therin of Andor]

how many "popular" series and movies have one or two novels a YEAR come out to satisfy those fans? And we're getting 12-18 or more (with trades and comics included)?? !

Sometimes I wish my Star Trek "to read" in-tray was empty enough to complain, but I fell way behind with "Mission Gamma" and have never caught up.

(Bloody internet, bloody life, bloody eyestrain, bloody piles of kidlit to be reviewed for school Premier's Reading Challenge lists... grumble, grumble.)

I'm on vacation for ten days. How many titles can I get caught up on before school goes back? It won't be enough, that's for sure...

 

[Rosalind]

Sometimes I wish my Star Trek "to read" in-tray was empty enough to complain, but I fell way behind with "Mission Gamma" and have never caught up.

(Bloody internet, bloody life, bloody eyestrain, bloody piles of kidlit to be reviewed for school Premier's Reading Challenge lists... grumble, grumble.)

I'm on vacation for ten days. How many titles can I get caught up on before school goes back? It won't be enough, that's for sure...

about 5-10 books?

I'm way behind on my reading as well, I've read 19 Trek books this year so far, that's less than a third of my to-read list for Trek. Not enough time...

 

[LightningStorm]

Sometimes I wish my Star Trek "to read" in-tray was empty enough to complain, but I fell way behind with "Mission Gamma" and have never caught up.

(Bloody internet, bloody life, bloody eyestrain, bloody piles of kidlit to be reviewed for school Premier's Reading Challenge lists... grumble, grumble.)

I'm on vacation for ten days. How many titles can I get caught up on before school goes back? It won't be enough, that's for sure...

Mission Gamma huh? Don't blame life, internet, etc.. blame DRGIII it takes a rather long time to read that many words all in one book. Then the next two weren't any slouches either in word count IIRC.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Yeah...about the DS9 "jump".

Like any jump forward, it effectively places serious limits on the stories to be told in the fill-in to come (assuming, of course, that there is one).

Example: We know Ezri lives--and presses on to become captain of a ship (and what a beautiful ship she be--well done, lass! ). Therefore, it'd be rather...ah, un-suspenseful to put her life in danger any time before Destiny....

And...any characters we see in this upcoming Typhon Pact book will therfore have survived anything that comes their way in the interim....

So...what do you think? Should we expect the "interim" books, then, to be more along the lines of "character works"? And...might they exploit the suspense concerning the characters we DON'T see in the Typhon Pact?

Oy....

 

[LutherSloan]

I just realized that 2011 will be the 10th anniversary of the launch of 'Enterprise'. So I would guess that there will be more than 1-2 books set in that part of the Trek Lit universe.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Don't blame life, internet, etc.. blame DRGIII it takes a rather long time to read that many words all in one book.

Yeah, actually I got to blame him in person when DRGIII came to Australia for a convention!

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

In the late 70s and early 80s we lived in blissful ignorance, waiting for the next copy of "Locus" to find out the title of the one next ST title, due in about four months time. Often, the first we saw of cover art was when the book appeared on the bookshelves.

Hey, Therin, at what point are you going to start chasing kids off with your walking cane and telling them to stay off your lawn?

I just realized that 2011 will be the 10th anniversary of the launch of 'Enterprise'. So I would guess that there will be more than 1-2 books set in that part of the Trek Lit universe.

Don't know... the least successful Trek series (lasting only 4 seasons, and not having any movies or animated series to follow it)? Would it warrant it?

Then in 2013 we have the 20th anniversary of DS9, then 2015 the 20th anniversary of Voyager, followed closely by 2016 for TOS's 50th and 2017 for TNG's 30th. Dark years ahead!

 

[Therin of Andor]

Hey, Therin, at what point are you going to start chasing kids off with your walking cane and telling them to stay off your lawn?

Don't need to. Luckily, the young ST fans I pal around with these days don't seem to mind "Dad" liking the same shows.

Similarly, as a newbie, I was quite welcomed by the old guard ST fans in 1979, although they couldn't understand what I saw in ST:TMP.

 

[flandry84]

Guys,I've really only skimmed through this thread(sorry).
My two Euro cents...
TOS-yay!
But the lack of concrete news on Vanguard is disappointing.
I feel (probably incorrectly) that somehow DS9r has become inconvenient and that is a shame,the atmosphere of the previous books was really superb,the characters,even the minor "backround players" were really involving.
I'm probably out of step with the general feeling on the MU,but I'm pretty sick of it now...enough already.

 

[Skywalker]

Potentially no ENT in 2010 makes Skywalker a sad panda. That's the only novel line in which I'm not woefully behind, so the Typhon Pact stuff holds little interest for me. The TOS stuff does, too, but for different reasons.

Oh well. Hopefully the nuTrek novels will be good. And hopefully you guys will someday be allowed to put out more than one book a month again.

 

[Jono]

I liked that DS9 was dealing with its own thing and wanted to see it continue to do that. It also doesn't help that I'm not a Destiny fan and the Typhon Pact doesn't hold much interest for me. So only having one DS9 book and for it to be part of a series I'm not interested in isn't the best for me...other then I might save a bit of money on Trek movies next year. We'll see when they come out how un-interwoven they really are, the less so the more likely I'll have a look at the DS9 novel. I wonder how much the DS9 novel is just there because Voyager couldn't be fit in or if DS9 was always going to get its own novel in the mini-series.

I have enjoyed the Myriad Universe titles though, so I will look forward to reading that.

Seven Deadly Sins sounds interesting as well. Pity "Lust" isn't set on Risa or Argelius II.

 

[Man of Steel]

Margret Clark should be fired. She is destroying Trek single handily.

If Marco was still around, we wouldn't have such an unbalanced and messed up schedule.

BRING BACK MARCO. BRING BACK MARCO

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Margret Clark should be fired. She is destroying Trek single handily.

With respect, that's not very pleasant at all. Even if you don't like what she's doing, give her a chance. She's had to suddenly take on about a 120% larger workload and balance business demands with the desires of all us varied fans. It's a bit early to be insisting she's ruined anything...

 

[Skywalker]

I'm not terribly familiar with Margaret Clark or Marco (is it Palmieri?--see what I mean? ), but I do think the schedule is a little unbalanced. With something that's tied together like the Typhon Pact stories, I think it makes sense to release them all back-to-back, but maybe the TOS and nuTrek novels should have been spread out more over the other 2/3rds of the schedule.

 

[Sci]

Margret Clark should be fired. She is destroying Trek single handily.

If Marco was still around, we wouldn't have such an unbalanced and messed up schedule.

BRING BACK MARCO. BRING BACK MARCO

That is absolutely uncalled for.

I agree that Marco's books were usually stronger than Margaret's, but to say she should be fired and is "destroying Trek single-handedly?"

First off, there's nothing messed up about the schedule. They stayed away from TOS for a long while to give the film some room, and now they're making up for it -- and several of these "TOS" novels are actually about peripheral TOS characters, such as Saavik, Carol Marcus, and Christopher Pike, not the central TOS characters.

Secondly, to claim that the 2010 schedule would have been more balanced had Marco been around is absolute nonsense. Yearly schedules have been regularly unbalanced for most of this past decade; the balance has always been cumulative, not annual. 2006 was TOS-heavy; 2007 was TNG-heavy; 2003 was DS9-heavy; 2004 was TNG-heavy; etc.

Further -- I really don't see why everyone's lumping TOS and nuTrek novels in the same boat. NuTrek is rather obviously a different animal than TOS, and really should be seen as its own series, as unique as, say, New Frontier or Corps of Engineers.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Margret Clark should be fired. She is destroying Trek single handily.

If Marco was still around, we wouldn't have such an unbalanced and messed up schedule.

BRING BACK MARCO. BRING BACK MARCO

If you want to blame someone (bearing in mind that Margaret has been in charge of several of the lines all along) blame the bean-counters who fired Marco as part of a cost-saving exercise, and thus landed her with more than double the workload.

I suspect you'd find that if she'd been fired in December, and Marco was still there with a double workload, much the same effect would have resulted.

 

[Andy Mangels]

4. With the exception of one short story, there is a conspicuous lack of KRAD and Andy Mangels for the next year. Here's hoping one of them will get the September spot that has yet to be contracted.

Thanks for your support. I can't speak for Keith, but I'm not negotiating for anything with Margaret at this time, though I hope to in the future, and will be chatting with her at SDCC.

I know nothing about the new Titan book Mike is writing; the first I heard of it was on this thread.