Yup.
Can't Stomach Blu-Ray
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I'm only buying Trek on Blu-Ray. The rest in hi-def content I can rent, netflix, download, get over the air, dvr or get from the library.
Rii
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I don't think Blu-Ray is ever going to take off as a storage medium. It's too small relative to even 2.5" HDD capacities and offers lower read/write performance, the interface (i.e. the drive) is also not nearly as common as USB 2.0/FireWire, and the media is too expensive. Whether you need to shift 1MB, 1GB or 1TB of data, there are better options available.
People said the same thing about DVD.
Indeed. I distinctly remember people resisting the new format "until it's recordable" (ffs
), claiming that there was "little difference" between it and VHS...What I don't understand are people, and I know a few, who spend £500+ on a new HDTV yet don't bother taking advantage of it with an HD video source. I mean, what's the point?
DVD is a great format, and I understand the argument that it's "good enough". I agree to an extent, there's very little in my collection that I'm going to re-buy. The upscaler in my Bluray player does a very good job and DVDs look better on my new LCD than they ever did on my old CRT.
But bluray is a massive evolutionary step and well worth the upgrade as far as I'm concerned. Watch 2001 in 1080p with Dolby TrueHD and tell me it's not a vast improvement. If you do, you're either lying, partially sighted, or just plain stupid.
If people just don't care enough about it then cool! Not everyone is that bothered, or willing to spend the money. I get that, I'm not an elitist about these things. I just hate it when people talk nonsense.
As a big dvd enthusiast with a sizeable collection of over 1000 titles, initially I was rather skeptical about blu-ray. Moving into a bigger house finally allowed me to invest in a decent HD television and since I had the money I bought a panasonic blu-ray player along with it.
I'm in love.
I got myself six blu-ray releases (more are on the way) and each one has offered me a stunning experience. Last week I watched 2001 and it looked so pretty it almost made me weep.
Through upconverting my panasonic makes the most out of my dvd's, I'm quite satisfied with how DVD looks on my HD television. Suffice to say, I have little interest in watching grainy exploitation movies in high definition. But for visually remarkable films, like historical epics, superhero blockbusters, or the films of Terrence Malick, blu-ray adds a whole new dimension to the experience.
I'm in love.
I got myself six blu-ray releases (more are on the way) and each one has offered me a stunning experience. Last week I watched 2001 and it looked so pretty it almost made me weep.
Through upconverting my panasonic makes the most out of my dvd's, I'm quite satisfied with how DVD looks on my HD television. Suffice to say, I have little interest in watching grainy exploitation movies in high definition. But for visually remarkable films, like historical epics, superhero blockbusters, or the films of Terrence Malick, blu-ray adds a whole new dimension to the experience.
The best... at self deception?
I hate to say it, but the thing I never really liked about some high-def movies, is that the visuals just look too... I dunno weird, its almost like too clear. I've gotten used to a bit more "matte" feel to watching a movie or TV show.
I'm kinda like a few on the board, I still have an old tube TV (only bought it like 4 years ago so its not ancient) and a dvd/vcr combo - but I am definately planning on buying an LCD sometime in the not too distant future - once I'm working more full time again and probably hold off on the BluRay player until Trek XI comes out (hehe hey... it should give me some time!) maybe buy a PS3 since I heard that they may drop it another $100 this summer - since at least it'll let me have both a new game console, as well as a bluray player - and then I can finally download tracks for Guitar Hero and Rock Band LOL - still playing both on a PS2.
I was really shocked to see BluRay players going for less than $150 around Christmas time so that's kind of leading me to believe that by this Christmas even a cheap-o to decent BluRay player could be had for under $100. Sort of like how DVD was about 5 years ago. When I bought my first DVD player - Nemesis wasn't too old at that point and was the first DVD I bought - I paid roughly $100 bucks for the Magnavox player that I still use at my mom's office -works great (considering that my grandma has gone through 2 of the cheap Cyberhome players I bought her - and she barely used it - that's why I bought cheap! Why buy a good brand when its just going to sit collecting dust?)
I'm hoping that BluRay drives in computers will become more standard, sort of like how DVD has become, you're hard pressed NOT to find a DVD-RW drive on a computer nowadays. And it was less than a few years ago you still had "Combo Drives" that could read DVD, but only write to CD
I'm kinda like a few on the board, I still have an old tube TV (only bought it like 4 years ago so its not ancient) and a dvd/vcr combo - but I am definately planning on buying an LCD sometime in the not too distant future - once I'm working more full time again and probably hold off on the BluRay player until Trek XI comes out (hehe hey... it should give me some time!) maybe buy a PS3 since I heard that they may drop it another $100 this summer - since at least it'll let me have both a new game console, as well as a bluray player - and then I can finally download tracks for Guitar Hero and Rock Band LOL - still playing both on a PS2.
I was really shocked to see BluRay players going for less than $150 around Christmas time so that's kind of leading me to believe that by this Christmas even a cheap-o to decent BluRay player could be had for under $100. Sort of like how DVD was about 5 years ago. When I bought my first DVD player - Nemesis wasn't too old at that point and was the first DVD I bought - I paid roughly $100 bucks for the Magnavox player that I still use at my mom's office -works great (considering that my grandma has gone through 2 of the cheap Cyberhome players I bought her - and she barely used it - that's why I bought cheap! Why buy a good brand when its just going to sit collecting dust?)
I'm hoping that BluRay drives in computers will become more standard, sort of like how DVD has become, you're hard pressed NOT to find a DVD-RW drive on a computer nowadays. And it was less than a few years ago you still had "Combo Drives" that could read DVD, but only write to CD
Indeed. I distinctly remember people resisting the new format "until it's recordable" (ffs
What I don't understand are people, and I know a few, who spend £500+ on a new HDTV yet don't bother taking advantage of it with an HD video source. I mean, what's the point?
DVD is a great format, and I understand the argument that it's "good enough". I agree to an extent, there's very little in my collection that I'm going to re-buy. The upscaler in my Bluray player does a very good job and DVDs look better on my new LCD than they ever did on my old CRT.
But bluray is a massive evolutionary step and well worth the upgrade as far as I'm concerned. Watch 2001 in 1080p with Dolby TrueHD and tell me it's not a vast improvement. If you do, you're either lying, partially sighted, or just plain stupid.
If people just don't care enough about it then cool! Not everyone is that bothered, or willing to spend the money. I get that, I'm not an elitist about these things. I just hate it when people talk nonsense.
I think most people just watch old movies on Blu-Ray where the studios did a crappy job on the transfer. The technology isn't evident on every single disc, and I wish people would come to terms with this.
Hopefully Wrath of Khan will set the record straight on these forums. I hear that one was given the Godfather treatment in terms of remastering.
Older movies aren't going to have that certain "pop" that you'd get with Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean or whatever, but some studios really don't put a whole lot of effort into cleaning up older titles (Universal threw a lot of crap onto HD-DVD like Mobsters, while Field of Dreams was bad on HD-DVD and they made no effort to fix it for Blu-ray), and when they try to, the digital noise reduction actually makes it worse. For an "older" title, Blade Runner would be my example of doing it as best as possible).
Indeed. I distinctly remember people resisting the new format "until it's recordable" (ffs
What I don't understand are people, and I know a few, who spend £500+ on a new HDTV yet don't bother taking advantage of it with an HD video source. I mean, what's the point?
DVD is a great format, and I understand the argument that it's "good enough". I agree to an extent, there's very little in my collection that I'm going to re-buy. The upscaler in my Bluray player does a very good job and DVDs look better on my new LCD than they ever did on my old CRT.
But bluray is a massive evolutionary step and well worth the upgrade as far as I'm concerned. Watch 2001 in 1080p with Dolby TrueHD and tell me it's not a vast improvement. If you do, you're either lying, partially sighted, or just plain stupid.
If people just don't care enough about it then cool! Not everyone is that bothered, or willing to spend the money. I get that, I'm not an elitist about these things. I just hate it when people talk nonsense.
What he said.
Rii
Rear Admiral
DVD offered a far greater increase in capacity over CD than Blu-Ray offers over DVD. Competing technologies (flash, portable HDDs, online storage/broadband) were also less capable and mature relative to typical data storage requirements than they are today. Even given those advantages, I'd argue that DVD-R never did overtake CD-R, if you have some hard numbers to the contrary I'd love to see them. Folks who need to back up 50GB of data are likely working with video and will need to back up a lot more than 50GB of data. Blu-Ray just doesn't have a niche to fill.
Numbers are hardly necessary because the counter-argument is moot. The marketers are already discounting the new players in time for Christmas, and the suppliers are quietly scaling back the DVD selection to make room for the new format. Most will eventually adopt the new technology, and the rest will follow by the time digital distribution replaces Blu-Ray.
Nothing lasts forever...
Same deal. When Blu-Ray drives replace DVD players in computers and everyone has one, there won't be any point in buying old discs with 1/100th the space for the same price. I'm not saying it's proper to go with one or the other, just that companies replacing old technology is an inevitability.
Indeed, when I have this discussion with people, I put on Dr.No on a 1080p telly with a bluray player. The conversation is generally over at that stage.
I popped in Thunderball for the first time on blu the other night... it was truly stunning to watch a film that old look that natural and good.
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