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Avatar: The Last Airbender Teaser!

I'm a huge Night fan so I'll have to go see this. Even his more maligned movies I've found great entertainment in. I must say, I'm a little disappointed though that he's creating a movie that is directly based off of another work... Can anyone fill me in on some details of the series (plot, how long the series was/is, etc.)?
 
Wow, Paramount gave a budget of 250 million for the entire movie trilogy. That's roughly a budget of 83.3 million per movie.
 
I'm kind of neutral about this, the trailer looks cool, but the voice-over doesn't feel like Avatar to me. Much more interested in seeing Zuko in action anyways, Aang was probably (and unfortunately) my least favourite part of the series.
 
Looks pretty damn good. I haven't liked MNS's movies since Unbreakable so I'll continue to have doubts about this until I actually see a good movie in the cinema.
 
I'm kind of neutral about this, the trailer looks cool, but the voice-over doesn't feel like Avatar to me.

Really? I thought the narrator sounded a lot like Avatar Roku.

I've been very skeptical about this movie from the beginning. I feel Shyamalan's style is the diametric opposite of what this series needs, I'm not happy with the casting choices (and not only because of ethnicity -- Shaun Toub is totally wrong for Iroh and I can't see The Daily Show's Aasif Mandvi as Zhao), and I'm not thrilled with the fact that it's being filmed mainly in Pennsylvania rather than more authentic Asian locales.

However, I am forced to admit... seeing the Air Temple and the Fire Nation armada in realistic CGI sent a physical thrill through me. They looked a lot more convincing and authentic than I had any hope for. For the first time, I'm feeling a hint of guarded optimism that maybe MNS will get this right after all, at least on a visual and design level.
 
I've no desire to see this.

The way that trailer starts ( "chosen one"? really? again?) it seemed like it was going to be one of those god awful satire movies called "Kung Fu Movie"
 
That was nicely put together, the way we saw Aang training, then a pull-away shot to reveal the air temple, then a few small ships, then a massive armada approaching, displaying its fire power. They got a lot of what Avatar is all about in there.

I also looked at a few of the other YouTube clips and the locations look pretty convincing.
 
ATLA is probably the greatest American animated series ever made. I really hope they don't screw it up.
 
ATLA is probably the greatest American animated series ever made. I really hope they don't screw it up.

No.

And no.

That said, the trailer looks pretty damn good. A close friend of mine got to be an extra in it, somewhere near the end, apparently.
 
Still think it was dumb to recast Asian/Inuit characters as white people (and cast an Indian as the main villain who was previously the palest; sheesh, given that Hollywood is so desperate not to offend anyone, they walked right into that one).

Looks decent, that said. I do hope the movie does well, if only because I'm a fan of Dev Patel's.
 
No.

And no.

Yes and yes. Sorry Bruce Timm fans, but ATLA is just better.

Still think it was dumb to recast Asian/Inuit characters as white people (and cast an Indian as the main villain who was previously the palest; sheesh, given that Hollywood is so desperate not to offend anyone, they walked right into that one).

I understand the controversy. But I think it might be a little over done. Culturally yes, they were Asian. Airbenders = Tibetans. Fire Nation = Medieval Japan. Earth Kingdom =Imperial Chinese. Water Tribes = Inuit Indians. But racially I think there could have been some interpretation there. They may have had different skin tones, but in terms of features many of them were pretty neutral. Because with hair Aang looked pretty caucassian a lot of the time, even if most of the other Airbenders looked very Asian. Ty Lee and Azula at times both looked pretty damn white to me. There was also a Fire Bender that was clearly black. So while culturally it was Asian, I think racially it could be open to interpretation.

Besides, Aang being white shouldn't even be the main point of controversy IMO. The fact that The Fire Nation, who's rulling family and a majority of the population was clearly Japanese, are now suddenly South Asian and Middle Eastern I find distressing. It's too much of that "Evil Terrorist Arabs" thing going on there for my tastes.
 
Still think it was dumb to recast Asian/Inuit characters as white people (and cast an Indian as the main villain who was previously the palest; sheesh, given that Hollywood is so desperate not to offend anyone, they walked right into that one).
Ang, Sokka & Katarra all had blue eyes.
 
Still think it was dumb to recast Asian/Inuit characters as white people (and cast an Indian as the main villain who was previously the palest; sheesh, given that Hollywood is so desperate not to offend anyone, they walked right into that one).
Ang, Sokka & Katarra all had blue eyes.

Even though Avatar isn't a Japanese show, it does have that similar character design oddity about hair and eye color. Many Japanese shows that are clearly supposed to be set in Japan seem to star white folk for some reason. So when they're adapted to live action they can either cast white people who actually look like the characters, or ignore their animated appearance. Or do some sort of crazy "White Chicks" thing, but that's not a serious option.

Weren't they going to do a GITS live action? All the Japanese main characters in that look white, aside from the chief, even though the show has a lot less stylization than most.

Maybe they redraw & recolor them for foreign audiences? :lol:
 
Yes and yes. Sorry Bruce Timm fans, but ATLA is just better.

It's not a competition. I love the DC Animated Universe and I love Avatar. Batman: TAS was the best, most revolutionary American animated series of the '90s, and A:TLA is the same for the '00s. It's not like it has to be a choice between one or the other.


I understand the controversy. But I think it might be a little over done. Culturally yes, they were Asian. Airbenders = Tibetans. Fire Nation = Medieval Japan. Earth Kingdom =Imperial Chinese. Water Tribes = Inuit Indians. But racially I think there could have been some interpretation there. They may have had different skin tones, but in terms of features many of them were pretty neutral. Because with hair Aang looked pretty caucassian a lot of the time, even if most of the other Airbenders looked very Asian. Ty Lee and Azula at times both looked pretty damn white to me.

A matter of interpretation. With the stylized and simplified character designs of animation, people sometimes tend to read their own ethnic expectations into a character. And no ethnic group is truly uniform anyway. Personally, I thought Azula looked to be the same basic type as other Fire Nation characters. She has pale skin, but her eyes and nose are definitely Asian.

As for Aang and Ty Lee, their look wasn't "Caucasian" so much as childlike, with oversized eyes. When we saw younger versions of Zuko, Azula, etc., they had bigger eyes too. Large eyes make us think of youth, because infants and children have larger eyes in proportion to their skulls. That's a universal human pattern, even a universal mammalian one, so it's not an ethnic marker.

There was also a Fire Bender that was clearly black.

What? Who are you referring to?

Besides, Aang being white shouldn't even be the main point of controversy IMO. The fact that The Fire Nation, who's rulling family and a majority of the population was clearly Japanese, are now suddenly South Asian and Middle Eastern I find distressing. It's too much of that "Evil Terrorist Arabs" thing going on there for my tastes.

What? The closest thing to a "Middle Eastern" actor in a Fire Nation role is Shaun Toub, who's Iranian, aka Persian. Persians are a totally different ethnic group from Arabs, more closely related to Northern Indian peoples.

And we know that Zuko is not truly a villain, just someone who hasn't figured out yet how to be a hero. And Iroh's definitely a good guy. Not to mention Ursa, and eventually Ty Lee and Mai. So it's not like this trilogy is going to be saying "dark-skinned people are evil." I mean, come on, the director of the film is from India. (And we know he always plays cameo roles in his own films, so I'd bet he appears as a Fire Nation character.) Meanwhile, all the Earth Kingdom characters are being played by East Asian actors, and most of those are good guys, particularly Suki and eventually Toph.

So while I would definitely prefer it if Katara and Sokka were portrayed by non-Caucasian actors, I think it's incorrect to say that the film is stereotyping non-Caucasians as villains.


Ang, Sokka & Katarra all had blue eyes.

No, Aang has brown eyes:
http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/007/187.jpg
http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/007/222.jpg

Water Tribe people have blue eyes because of the connection to water, just as Earth Kingdom characters tend to have green eyes and Fire Nation characters tend to have orange-brown eyes.
 
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