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Why is the new film doing so terribly outside the US..???

Babylon 5 and Farscape, not surprised, as they are deep, absorbing and need long attention spans to fully appreciate.

But Stargate? I'm a fan, but it's much more simple action-adventure fare. I would think the US would be one of it's top audiences.
 
Babylon 5 and Farscape, not surprised, as they are deep, absorbing and need long attention spans to fully appreciate.

But Stargate? I'm a fan, but it's much more simple action-adventure fare. I would think the US would be one of it's top audiences.

Could just be a function of the globalization of American TV, and the fact that Stargate is a more recent show. As others have pointed out, Star Trek didn't really get a proper run in many markets around the world....markets that nowadays might be more likely to show American imports. So the fan base might not have grown as deeply in other countries as it would have if it were released today.

Also, of course, Stargate airs on a niche cable network in the US, which limits the audience. It might air on bigger networks in some other countries.
 
Why is A&D so popular abroad? Is it because it largely focuses on Europe? Or is it Catholicism they're interested in?
 
This movie is in no way doing terribly outside the U.S. If anything it's a huge success and it hasn't even opened in Japan or Mexico yet.
 
Babylon 5 and Farscape, not surprised, as they are deep, absorbing and need long attention spans to fully appreciate.

But Stargate? I'm a fan, but it's much more simple action-adventure fare. I would think the US would be one of it's top audiences.

Even assuming that your allegation that we Americans are simple minded dudes with short attention spans and a preference for simple stuff, what is that have to do with the google searches? Farscape and B5 are low because they are not recent, they finished their run in US long ago. I am sure the release of the new Trek movie increased the search numbers for Star Trek drastically, similarly with new Stargate series/DVD movies. I haven't tried to look up any info about B5 or Farscape in ages.

btw, while I liked Farscape and B5, I didn't find either to be particularly deep and absorbing.
 
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I can't say much for how TOS was recieved here in Australia (I wasn't born at that point)

ST was a moderate Australian success for the Nine Network in first-run in the 60s, and they virtually ignored it until color TV was introduced in 1975. About ten eps were selected to be aired in primetime, and TAS was rerun in popular breakfast TV slots.

The rights to TOS switched to the Seven Network in the lead-up to ST II's cinema release, and TOS was thus run in prime time, and for the first time the whole series in color, and in production order. Then it went to repeats on weekends: the 40 eps that were rated "G", anyway.

I can remember watching TOS in the mid to late 70's at primetime, just after dinner. At the time for me and many people it was must-see TV.


Can't remember it being after dinner but I can remember if being on in the 5 - 6pm time slot on Ch9 and that was in 79 (hope it was cos I say I've been a Star Trek fan for 30 years).
 
Can't remember it being after dinner but I can remember if being on in the 5 - 6pm time slot on Ch9 and that was in 79 (hope it was cos I say I've been a Star Trek fan for 30 years).

Well, it depends on which state you lived in. It certainly wasn't airing in Sydney in 1979. About ten TOS eps (first time in colour!) to welcome colour TV to Australia in 1975 - and they also re-ran TAS (first time in colour!) during "The Super Flying Fun Show" weekday breakfast show the same year. Lots of old shows and cartoons were re-presented in colour in 1975. (I somehow missed TOS in b/w first run, but did see many b/w TAS eps on Saturday mornings.)

I've been a fan for 30 years because that's when TMP premiered.

Also, remember that Roddenberry suggested to Paramount that TOS repeats be pulled from circulation for a few months before the movie came out, to get fans really hungry for TMP.
 
Babylon 5 and Farscape, not surprised, as they are deep, absorbing and need long attention spans to fully appreciate.

But Stargate? I'm a fan, but it's much more simple action-adventure fare. I would think the US would be one of it's top audiences.

Even assuming that your allegation that we Americans are simple minded dues with short attention spans and a preference for simple stuff, what is that have to do with the google searches? Farscape and B5 are low because they are not recent, they finished their run in US long ago. I am sure the release of the new Trek movie increased the search numbers for Star Trek drastically, similarly with new Stargate series/DVD movies. I haven't tried to look up any info about B5 or Farscape in ages.

btw, while I liked Farscape and B5, I didn't find either to be particularly deep and absorbing.

That's right, WE Americans. I'm an American. I'm a Farscape and B5 fan and DO find both to be deep and absorbing and think if any fan doesn't find them so, or at least deep, then you really aren't trying.

And yes, Americans DO have short attention spans. Science fiction fans not as much, but it is curious that it is the lighter fair that seems to garner more easily and quickly fan bases.

And I never said it had anything to do solely with Google searches (literal mindedness I find tedious). I believe it has to do with more general perceptions in the various countries.
 
Babylon 5 and Farscape, not surprised, as they are deep, absorbing and need long attention spans to fully appreciate.

But Stargate? I'm a fan, but it's much more simple action-adventure fare. I would think the US would be one of it's top audiences.

Even assuming that your allegation that we Americans are simple minded dues with short attention spans and a preference for simple stuff, what is that have to do with the google searches? Farscape and B5 are low because they are not recent, they finished their run in US long ago. I am sure the release of the new Trek movie increased the search numbers for Star Trek drastically, similarly with new Stargate series/DVD movies. I haven't tried to look up any info about B5 or Farscape in ages.

btw, while I liked Farscape and B5, I didn't find either to be particularly deep and absorbing.

Farscape had a very complex narrative. By the time the latter half of season 2 rolled around, you could not miss an episode and know what was happening, one of the main reasons it did not do well enough in the US market and was cancelled before its time. Too many channels to compete with in the US and people get easily frustrated. But, if you watched every episode, it was eminently absorbing.

On the other hand, TOS was "easy entry" because of the reset button at the end of each episode, and susequent ST series used less of a reset but still tried to begin and end a plot in each episode. While some of the ideas were complex, the storytellling was certainly not as complex as Farscape's. So, maybe that explains the difference.
 
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