I prefered Nemesis
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Star Trek: Opens with a corvette scene...
Nuff said really.
NO IT DOESN'T.
Maybe you should go watch it again. It would give you more accurate ammunition for your hate.
Tentacle - Actually, it opens with the Kelvin scene, so pedantically speaking, they are not quite on par with each other, in that respect.
I still preferred the corvette scene (ie: showing a reckless Jim Kirk in his youth) - it had more of a context than the Dune Buggy scene, IMO.
Star Trek: Opens with a corvette scene...
NO IT DOESN'T.
Maybe you should go watch it again. It would give you more accurate ammunition for your hate.
I know that was coming when I wrote it.But Nemesis didnt open with the dune buggy scene either, it opened with Riker and Troi getting married.
Besides featuring vehicles, how were they similar?
I just got finished going back and watching ALL of the old movies (including the bad ones). I have to say that I now officially like Star Trek XI the most. It's close with TWOK, which is the only other Trek film that deserves mentioned in the same breath with the new film. But I give the nod to this film for its humor and overall sense of fun. Don't get me wrong, I love TWOK, but in many ways the film is just a downer.
Wheather someone liked one of the other movies better, is purely a matter of personal taste. My personal problem with Nemesis, was that they intentionally tried to remake TWOK, with the next gen characters. It failled miserably.
Nemesis was not without merrit though. I thought what they were trying to do with the Remens was an interesting concept, but they screwed up alot of it, with the Troi mind rape scene, and other stuff like that.
Wheather someone liked one of the other movies better, is purely a matter of personal taste. My personal problem with Nemesis, was that they intentionally tried to remake TWOK, with the next gen characters. It failled miserably.
Nemesis was not without merrit though. I thought what they were trying to do with the Remens was an interesting concept, but they screwed up alot of it, with the Troi mind rape scene, and other stuff like that.
Well lets see...
dune buggy didnt fit any of the star trek futuristic tech
corvette check
buggy driving in the desert kicking up dust
iowa desert check
buggy didnt have any blatant product placements
corvette check and double check
aliens chasing buggy
cop chasing corvette check
buggy driving off the edge of a cliff in a dangerous stun
corvette driving off the edge of a cliff in a dangerous stun check
Differences in intent:
In Nemesis - dune buggy sequence = male midlife crisis by adults who should have known better
In ST11 - rebellious child (not yet mature enough to think through actions - insert any social & development theory you like) acting out against an absent primary attachment figure.
In Nemesis - dune buggy sequence = male midlife crisis by adults who should have known better
In ST11 - rebellious child (not yet mature enough to think through actions - insert any social & development theory you like) acting out against an absent primary attachment figure.
I sometimes wonder. If I have to walk around at night by myself, I usually feel some fear, and I am 5'7", 225lbs and my arms are 18" circumference, so I'm not a small guy. I usually also carry a flashlight and...errmmm...weaponry lol.
I sometimes wonder what women feel when they are in the same situation.
Well I'm not an expert, but most rapes that I can see happen because the guy thinks he can't get sex the normal ways (usually because he hates women, so he can't even talk to one and try to have a relationship with one) and all the porn they see fucks up their minds totally, and they need to go and act it out for real.
Sometimes it's revenge against a specific woman for whatever the guy in his mind thinks was done wrong to him by this woman.
So sex in a way is part of it.
Agreed. Add to that the fact that a Corvette is a classic icon car and I can guarantee you that if we make it to the 23rd century, people will still own them, restored and in drivable condition. Add to THAT the fact that the Corvette was not standard issue on the Enterprise the way the Argo was.
In both cases its a massive ego stroke.
dune buggy stroke adults with midlife crisis as you put it.
corvette stroke teenagers with rebellious intent.
Now maybe if nemesis targeted their audience towards a teen demographic, it might of done better in ticket sales.
Don't become a parent, then.
So corvette stroke another part of american psyche. The urge to own fast cars.
Tentacle, do you/have you had any teenaged sons?
Re the cars: If they really wanted to float my boat - try the current model Ford FPV XR8 in pristine condition in the 23rd Century, and I'm in. Although I reckon, on the performance and reliability of my 2003 model seduce red 3ltr V6 Ford Escape - that'll still be running in 200 years for sure
Yes, I admit it - I love my Ford!!!! DH drives an Focus XR5 Turbo. Go the mighty blue Oval!!!
Oh no! Im a woman who likes cars!!!
That's why our daughter has done ju jit su.
Re the cars: If they really wanted to float my boat - try the current model Ford FPV XR8 in pristine condition in the 23rd Century, and I'm in. Although I reckon, on the performance and reliability of my 2003 model seduce red 3ltr V6 Ford Escape - that'll still be running in 200 years for sure
Yes, I admit it - I love my Ford!!!! DH drives an Focus XR5 Turbo. Go the mighty blue Oval!!!
Oh no! Im a woman who likes cars!!!
That's why our daughter has done ju jit su.
The classiest fast cars are European. It's hardly an American thing.
But it is an american obsession to own them.
Many sincere apologies - that's what I get for trying to multi-task on a Sunday afternoon.
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