Rebooted Miranda Class...
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Thanks.
Nothing, yet. That's why I haven't taking a picture.
Sweet... My only advice is that your design gets a bit overly complicated around the shuttle-bays. Both PrimeTrek and NuTrek starfleet ships are made from relatively simple geometric shapes, so the rear area of the saucer is looking a bit too busy IMO.
I think the ship will look better if you simply cut the last 1/3rd of the saucer right off, such that the secondary hulls are attached to the flat end of the saucer. (Similar to the top views of saucers from the film that someone poster) I think that will make the warp pylon connection to the saucer and rollbar look more interesting as well.
I think the ship will look better if you simply cut the last 1/3rd of the saucer right off, such that the secondary hulls are attached to the flat end of the saucer. (Similar to the top views of saucers from the film that someone poster) I think that will make the warp pylon connection to the saucer and rollbar look more interesting as well.
The more you change it from the original Reliant, the less the ship is the Reliant, and more just 'something I threw together that's Reliant-like'. I really think you should keep the challenge to make her as intended, rather than start redoing things all over.
If the impulse housing is a problem, trying moving the shuttle-bay areas just outward (port and starboard) a little bit. I really don't like throwing a key component, such as the impulse engines, on a add-on weapons bar. As it is , the bays jut out back enough that the impulse housing doesn't seem to be a problem.
Hmm, that's probaby too much of a departure for what I was trying to do.
That would look interesting, though....
That would look interesting, though....
Well, my thought about that was that if the ship was moving, you wouldn't want to have the impulse engines firing right at the shuttles
The more you change it from the original Reliant, the less the ship is the Reliant, and more just 'something I threw together that's Reliant-like'. I really think you should keep the challenge to make her as intended, rather than start redoing things all over.
If the impulse housing is a problem, trying moving the shuttle-bay areas just outward (port and starboard) a little bit. I really don't like throwing a key component, such as the impulse engines, on a add-on weapons bar. As it is , the bays jut out back enough that the impulse housing doesn't seem to be a problem.
I might play around with this some more, before I commit.
Well, my thought about that was that if the ship was moving, you wouldn't want to have the impulse engines firing right at the shuttles
Well, you've got some pretty good clearance already just with the shuttlebays being pushed back like that. Remember that the impulse housing isn't THRUST, just PLASMA EXHAUST venting, so if you're a number of meters back and off to the side, you're going to be fine.
Well, keep in mind, too, that at some point, you may want the Soyuz, Saratoga, and Lantree arrangements. Losing the rollbar makes those all pretty problematic.
I don't know...Well, my thought about that was that if the ship was moving, you wouldn't want to have the impulse engines firing right at the shuttles
Well, you've got some pretty good clearance already just with the shuttlebays being pushed back like that. Remember that the impulse housing isn't THRUST, just PLASMA EXHAUST venting, so if you're a number of meters back and off to the side, you're going to be fine.
Well, keep in mind, too, that at some point, you may want the Soyuz, Saratoga, and Lantree arrangements. Losing the rollbar makes those all pretty problematic.
I never liked the design without the roll-bar... It always seemed too short. I think I am going to re-style that pod, and when I do, I have some other ideas to play with.
If impulse exhaust were a problem, it would be a problem on the original as well. Why change it if it was good enough for the original?
Besides, if I understand correctly, putting the source of thrust on an external pod creates some potential torque problems. I'm not an engineer, though.
Marian
Besides, if I understand correctly, putting the source of thrust on an external pod creates some potential torque problems. I'm not an engineer, though.
Marian
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
Well, my thought about that was that if the ship was moving, you wouldn't want to have the impulse engines firing right at the shuttles
Well, you've got some pretty good clearance already just with the shuttlebays being pushed back like that. Remember that the impulse housing isn't THRUST, just PLASMA EXHAUST venting, so if you're a number of meters back and off to the side, you're going to be fine.
Uhh. No. Impulse engines are fusion rockets. Those ARE thrust vents. (We are talking about the Impulse Engine assembly, correct?)
Yeah, we are.Well, my thought about that was that if the ship was moving, you wouldn't want to have the impulse engines firing right at the shuttles
Well, you've got some pretty good clearance already just with the shuttlebays being pushed back like that. Remember that the impulse housing isn't THRUST, just PLASMA EXHAUST venting, so if you're a number of meters back and off to the side, you're going to be fine.
Uhh. No. Impulse engines are fusion rockets. Those ARE thrust vents. (We are talking about the Impulse Engine assembly, correct?)
I know that it's been described as different things, but I thought that impulse engines were actually "Newtonian" in nature...but I might be wrong.
Even so, if they are, I have a balance problem with them bing up top like that.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
Yeah, we are.
I know that it's been described as different things, but I thought that impulse engines were actually "Newtonian" in nature...but I might be wrong.
Even so, if they are, I have a balance problem with them bing up top like that.
"Newtonian" is just a fancy way of saying "conventional rocket", that is one based off of the newtonian principle of action/reaction (which a fusion rocket would be).
And yeah, having one on the rollbar would cause all kinds of torque problems.
I know, that's why I put that in quotes. They're basically just rocket engines.Yeah, we are.
I know that it's been described as different things, but I thought that impulse engines were actually "Newtonian" in nature...but I might be wrong.
Even so, if they are, I have a balance problem with them bing up top like that.
"Newtonian" is just a fancy way of saying "conventional rocket", that is one based off of the newtonian principle of action/reaction (which a fusion rocket would be).
And yeah, having one on the rollbar would cause all kinds of torque problems.
Hopefully I'll have some ideas ironed out soon to show everyone...
Nope. Two words make that impossible, at least for conventional usage... "Reverse Impulse!" To say nothing of the CoM problems that the Enterprise would have...
Hmm... well, I'm going to leave them up top, just to be difficult.
Hmm... well, I'm going to leave them up top, just to be difficult.
Then I shall play the trump card... money, and returning to the project which WILL require those similar classes.
?Hmm... well, I'm going to leave them up top, just to be difficult.
Then I shall play the trump card... money, and returning to the project which WILL require those similar classes.
OK, some ideas... These engines were inspired by the Kelvin...
Should I go with the single one, or the doublestacked one?
( I know, I'm a wuss for changing it. )
Should I go with the single one, or the doublestacked one?
( I know, I'm a wuss for changing it.
)
There are no COM problems on the Enterprise if you assume the nacelles are denser then the rest of the ship. Seeing as the secondary hull is mostly hollow that's not a huge leap to make.
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