Voila, behold the Alternate Universe where Romulans have already been met and Spock openly acknowledges their common ancestry, thus Tholians and Gorn could well be established adversaries. Heck, Andorians could even be enemies in nuTrek
So, what was going on in the Laurentian system?
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Voila, behold the Alternate Universe where Romulans have already been met and Spock openly acknowledges their common ancestry, thus Tholians and Gorn could well be established adversaries. Heck, Andorians could even be enemies in nuTrek
Voila, behold the Alternate Universe where Romulans have already been met and Spock openly acknowledges their common ancestry, thus Tholians and Gorn could well be established adversaries. Heck, Andorians could even be enemies in nuTrek
I don't think Romulans have been met, technically. It's never established in TOS whether Vulcans know of their heritage with Romulans or not. I suspect they do.
I think it was a rally point. As Spock said: "we must even out the technological differences. To that end, we're going to the Laurentian system."
Not bad ... would you agree it was probably around 2255 in the Prime timeline? That isn't too far off from 2258, and if the events at Axanar were precipitated by Federation involvement, the altered timeline could easily fit things in?
I'm not saying it must be Axanar ... it's just a close fit and seems like as good an explanation as any for a large part of the fleet to be there.
Voila, behold the Alternate Universe where Romulans have already been met and Spock openly acknowledges their common ancestry, thus Tholians and Gorn could well be established adversaries. Heck, Andorians could even be enemies in nuTrek
I think it's more easily explainable than that.
After the loss of the Kelvin, the Federation would be going over every bit of intel recovered from the ship. We know that the First Romulan War had all negotiations conducted via subspace radio so we have some linguistic intel already, although no visual.
Comparisons were made to the tapes recovered from the Kelvin- huh, they're Romulans- Now, we have pictures of the Romulans too. Hey, they look like Vulcans. Let's spend 25 years doing some research, spying, covert stuff and find out more about these Romulans.
It would be a far greater stretch of logic, if they DIDN'T know all this.
No canon violation.
The idea that something was going on with the Klingons sounds good.
So going off of this:
47(!) Klingon ships were destroyed--which sounds like a mass destruction in battle (a la Wolf 359) rather than a hunt-them-down-one-at-a-time type of thing.
Whether the Klingons were going to attack the Federation or were defending themselves from the Narada, they would be gatherng. StarFleet, unaware which this was, would be occupied with that and rendevous-ing at the Laurentian system, leaving only those 7 ships and a bunch of cadets behind.
Digressing a bit:
I still don't understand how cadets were selected for assignments. Chekhov was only 17--too young to be a senior cadet. And there were plenty of cadets witnessing Nero's drilling of San Pancho Bay--so not all were assigned. ["Pancho" is a nickname for "Francisco"]
And...I can kinda understand why Kirk would be jumped, what is it, FIVE ranks to captain. The Kobayashi Maru was to test how a potential captain would perform in the face of fear. Kirk passed that test in real life...repeatedly. I'm wondering if Spock Prime's mindmeld with him gave him a shitload of other info/confidence/etc, so that this is turbo-Kirk; or maybe Spock Prime could control the info that much?
So going off of this:
47(!) Klingon ships were destroyed--which sounds like a mass destruction in battle (a la Wolf 359) rather than a hunt-them-down-one-at-a-time type of thing.
Whether the Klingons were going to attack the Federation or were defending themselves from the Narada, they would be gatherng. StarFleet, unaware which this was, would be occupied with that and rendevous-ing at the Laurentian system, leaving only those 7 ships and a bunch of cadets behind.
Digressing a bit:
I still don't understand how cadets were selected for assignments. Chekhov was only 17--too young to be a senior cadet. And there were plenty of cadets witnessing Nero's drilling of San Pancho Bay--so not all were assigned. ["Pancho" is a nickname for "Francisco"]
And...I can kinda understand why Kirk would be jumped, what is it, FIVE ranks to captain. The Kobayashi Maru was to test how a potential captain would perform in the face of fear. Kirk passed that test in real life...repeatedly. I'm wondering if Spock Prime's mindmeld with him gave him a shitload of other info/confidence/etc, so that this is turbo-Kirk; or maybe Spock Prime could control the info that much?
I hear there's a really great outlet mall over there.
Way better than the crappy one by the 105 freeway.
Way better than the crappy one by the 105 freeway.
I like the notion that the fleet was there in a show of force against the Klingons. Hell, for all we know, the Klingons might have been preparing to attack the Laurentian system before they got an emergency call about a big-ass Romulan vessel. In a weird way, that would mean the Narada short-circuited a Klingon-Federation battle.
I'd imagine an enlightened society like the Federation has some things in common with the free-for-all-60's. So yes, they probably donned all their clothes and have a big party. That's also the reason Spock wanted to join in, Uhura stirred all his inner emotions.
Starship polo.
As they stated in the movie, the primary fleet was engaged in the Laurentian system BEFORE the attack on Vulcan.
There must have been something big going on ... Klingons or Cardassians or maybe a portal from the Mirror Universe through which Emperor Tiberius is launching an attack ...
I hope they explain this plot hole in the sequel. ...
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