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To be honest, if you go by the rims of the saucers (both have a half, 2 whole and another half deck), they seem to be comparable in size.One is a model viewNew member here. You can tell that the new Enterprise is a helluva lot bigger than the original by comparing the saucers. Look how small the welders are compared to figures in the first picture.
one is a computer view
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Which is why I said they may not have a ''official'' length.We've seen a few different lengths given, but all of them indicate that the ship is huge. It's almost as if they can't decide on a number...
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CUSRE YOU J.J. CURSE YOU!!!!!!!!
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Oh! Sorry. Thanks for agreeing with me then.
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I'd say that's practically a guarantee since the certain "attention to detail" Trek has had in the past was intentionally avoided... and if you look at Ryan Church's past work, it doesn't require or feature the attention to detail, plausibility and intricacy that someone like Rick Sternbach produces.
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I love pics like these. If the Ent is that huge I'm allll for it!
I noticed that the new Enterprise looked a lot bigger when I saw the movie. When they did the shot of the shuttle bay, I thought it looked too big to be on the original sized Enterprise. Then I checked online to find some length figures and was shocked to see that they increased the size to somewhere between 762m and 914m. That's a huge increase in size. Not only did they double or triple the length, but you have to realize what that means in terms of overall volume (not only is it longer, it is taller and wider). If it is 762m, then by overall volume, it is approximately 18 times larger than the original Enterprise. If it is 914m, then by overall volume, it is approximately 31 times larger than the original Enterprise.
Here is a comparison chart I made up. It is to scale.
Nobody is certain of the exact size and there is some debate on the subject. However, it seems very likely that the size of this new ship is somewhere between 762m and 914m. Here is a thread over on startrekmovie.com on the subject.
http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7156
I'm not sure how I feel about it. It just seemed like an odd thing to do. I guess being fans of Star Wars, they were trying to increase the "wow" factor by increasing the scale of the ship.
I love pics like these. If the Ent is that huge I'm allll for it!
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If they did scale up the size of the Enterprise to 762m or more, I think they did a poor job of it. A lot of the outside is clearly lifted off the refit model with very little change. The most obvious thing to me are the windows along the side of the saucer section. On both the refit model and the new model, there is a sequence of windows that look like dots and dashes. They go long, short, long, 4 shorts, long, short, long, and then centered beneath this sequence is 2 short windows. You can clearly see the same pattern of windows on both the refit model and the new model on the picture I posted above. If you scale the two models to the same size, those windows are nearly exactly the same size on both models. You would think that as they scaled up the size of the ship, the windows would get smaller and smaller in relation to the overall ship because windows are typically a fixed absolute size, regardless of how big the object they are a part of. Look at the Enterprise D for a good example of this. Because that ship is so large, the windows appear to be very small in relation to it.
Basically, we either have ridiculously huge windows on a 762m+ new Enterprise, or the new Enterprise is approximately the same size as the refit model. There seems to be contradictory evidence for and against both possibilities.
If they did scale up the size of the Enterprise to 762m or more, I think they did a poor job of it. A lot of the outside is clearly lifted off the refit model with very little change. The most obvious thing to me are the windows along the side of the saucer section. On both the refit model and the new model, there is a sequence of windows that look like dots and dashes. They go long, short, long, 4 shorts, long, short, long, and then centered beneath this sequence is 2 short windows. You can clearly see the same pattern of windows on both the refit model and the new model on the picture I posted above. If you scale the two models to the same size, those windows are nearly exactly the same size on both models. You would think that as they scaled up the size of the ship, the windows would get smaller and smaller in relation to the overall ship because windows are typically a fixed absolute size, regardless of how big the object they are a part of. Look at the Enterprise D for a good example of this. Because that ship is so large, the windows appear to be very small in relation to it.
Basically, we either have ridiculously huge windows on a 762m+ new Enterprise, or the new Enterprise is approximately the same size as the refit model. There seems to be contradictory evidence for and against both possibilities.
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I think the ship looks bigger because they did shots up close. In previous movies, we're usually seeing the ship from more of a distance. I hope it's not bigger than 450-500 meters though, the design just doesn't really fit being any bigger than that IMO.
I think the ship looks bigger because they did shots up close. In previous movies, we're usually seeing the ship from more of a distance. I hope it's not bigger than 450-500 meters though, the design just doesn't really fit being any bigger than that IMO.
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In a movie about a ship that goes faster than light and beams people around
I'm willing to believe you need ALOT of room to make it go.
I'm sorta with you there, I think something along the lines like the E-D is big enough as is, but something bigger I think is just a ''TAD'' ridiculous don't you think?I love pics like these. If the Ent is that huge I'm allll for it!
In a movie about a ship that goes faster than light and beams people around
I'm willing to believe you need ALOT of room to make it go.
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Actually, those are both CGI models.One is a model viewNew member here. You can tell that the new Enterprise is a helluva lot bigger than the original by comparing the saucers. Look how small the welders are compared to figures in the first picture.
one is a computer view
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I would think that a ship in the half a mile range would create a lot of trouble of personnel.
I would think that a ship in the half a mile range would create a lot of trouble of personnel.
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I go for the just bigger than refit idea! Otherwise the airlocks on the neck and secondary hull must be at least 20 decks high!!
I go for the just bigger than refit idea! Otherwise the airlocks on the neck and secondary hull must be at least 20 decks high!!
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It's not the size that counts. It's what you do with it.
It's not the size that counts. It's what you do with it.
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